Need help Swedish rolling block id

[gregea42]

Have made chamber cast and slugged barrel.

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[pewpeworegon]

43 spanish?

 

[gregea42]

Had decided it was a 43 Spanish so I took a 43 Spanish case and fire formed it and now .458 cast bullets fits in it. The barrel slugged 6 inches down from the muzzle measures .418/.434.

 

[gregea42]

And barrel slug came out hex shaped. See phot

 

[gregea42]

Two cases are unfired and fire formed 43 Spanish. Nothing I have found matches fire formed case. Is it normal for these old rifles to have chambers that are that much oversized?

 

[gregea42]

Pics of gun.

 

[gregea42]

!another question. Does anyone know what year they started putting double extractors on the Remington rolling blocks??

 

[Artpro]

WHHHOOOEEE! It looks like somebody reamed the chamber to ??? but didn't finish the job--reboring/rifling. I'd suggest you look for a replacement barrel.

 

[thorborg]

!another question. Does anyone know what year they started putting double extractors on the Remington rolling blocks??

I don't know, but in the early 1800's tons of metal cartridges were seeing their first real use, started as rim fire and pin fire and even for some, one had to ad their own cap. after paper and foil cartridges the next generation were copper case, many good guns being developed didn't fair so good because the copper head would come off during extraction disabling the gun. Most worked fine when using the brass case. Nonetheless, about that time, and before the brass became ubiquitous Some, including Remington tried adding double extractors to make the copper case shell extract more reliably. Likely about 1860 for Remington??
The biggest issues at the time as I saw it, there were hundreds of different but similar cartridges because the many dozens of gun makers / builders at that time produced their own version of metal cased cartridge to fit their proprietary guns. Due mostly to the military purchase wanting to standardize, and expiring patents, not to mention the exasperating efforts to folks in remote areas to find ammo, slowly cartridges became standardized to a somewhat more reasonable extent.
For me, this lack of available 'off the rack" cartridges for civilian use, is the primary reason handloading became popular and prevalent for which I enjoy today. Obviously not to forget the importance of the invention, and acceptance, of the centerfire and replaceable primers.

 

[Unka-Boo]

Hop on over to gunboards and check the swedish sections...they should be able to ID it quickly.
Do you have any pics of other markings and maybe an overall pic?

 

[randys]

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