Native Oregonian, I've had enough. Moving to Utah... Good luck.

[Mikej]

It was pretty darned good 37 years ago too.

 

[SUPER X]

It was pretty darned good 37 years ago too.

Outside of portland it was like mayberry

 

[oremike]

Welcome to Oregon, enjoy your visit, leave your Money, but don't stay. That was how Oregon was before high tech. If you weren't in the logging or fishing industries you just plan didn't belong here. Now days there are a lot of longer term transient people, ones that move here for a few years and move on, back in the day families had deep roots and that caused a vested interest in long term goals. To the OP, I truly hope you find what you are looking for, I'm going to stay here and keep voting for, and being the change I want to see.

 

[HA556]

I"m not a native here but, do love the country and what it has to offer outdoors. I'd like to take that defecated k8 brownturd and flush her and her cronies down the sewer! My 13yr old son lives in West Salem with his mom who is a native and will never leave. As long as he's here, I'm here! No way I'd leave him! We're headed to the range today so he can shoot his AR and I can continue to teach him to be safe, observant and most importantly, smart in his thinking so that maybe there will be some who in the future can change things. I know, one can always hope!

OP, good luck on your move. Hope you find what your're looking for.

 

[41mag]

its really a shame how progressives and socialists have ruined the Pacific Northwest. I can only imagine what it was like here 50 years ago.

I was a migrant FROM Idaho a half-century ago, leaving the Treasure Valley behind in search of something better than the imagined flaws of "the Gem State".

One of the Final Insane Attractions affecting my move, was a sudden road trip with a buddy (I-80 was not complete). Hot from the long day on the road, the urge to splash down was overwhelming. We discovered an otherwise unused swimming pool off Old Hwy 30 somewhere between Troutdale & Gresham. About midnight we took a refreshing dip in what may have been a pool associated with the hotel near by. The powerful magnificent odor of blooming Rhododendrons was in the air. We managed to find a great eating joint still open near by.

The days of Governor Tom McCall certainly were refreshing. In any case, long ago & far far away. And state.gov certainly HAS mutated.

Don't expect your own vision of social order won't change over time. Good luck on your search for your vision wherever it takes you.

 

[03A3Sporter]

50 years ago Oregon was like watching a 1950s movie .

Nothing wrong with that from my perspective , honestly I can't say the way things are now are an improvement by any means. Salem isn't horrible in my mind , but having been to Portland which is doing its best to be the most radical city in the country . I only go there now when I have to and only for as long as I have to.

 

[mjwpar72]

Headed for SW Utah and becoming reverse snowbirds. Returning to Oregon coast late May - mid September. With fall/spring travel in SW. Too young to die, to old to fight on. Will definitely visit SW firearms site.

 

[Mikej]

Headed for SW Utah and becoming reverse snowbirds. Returning to Oregon coast late May - mid September. With fall/spring travel in SW. Too young to die, to old to fight on. Will definitely visit SW firearms site.

Last time someone mentioned something about Utah I googled and did some looking a round. Southwest Ut isn't too terrible in the winter, though gets pretty hot in summer. But its a "Dry Heat" as they say. Man, it desolate compared to west of the Cascades up here. I do miss Southern Utah, and the red rock country, from time to time.

 

[2thdrglock]

Well, I'm an Oklahoma native and moved here about 5 years ago. I would trade back to the tornadoes, severe T-storms, wind, and heat for the K8 brown turds any day of the week. I never realized how left a place could be...

 

[CountryGent]

I can't blame you for hitting the escape pods; we're planning the same in the coming years, though to Arizona. Out out of curiosity, where in Utah? I've liked the southern part of the state, but not the northern end. (Ultimately we nixed the idea due to cultural reasons, but that is a beautiful state.)

 

[Tony617]

Yes SLC is near the Wasatch fault and I have family around the Salt Lake City area. I was also looking at St George Utah since I have family living down there as well. St. George had a major earthquake in 1992 and now there are more people living in St. George now.

Our Geological Wonderland: St. George has its faults - The Independent | News Events Opinion More

 

[DangerDog]

Also an Oregon native. Portland unfortunately. Grew up mostly in Idaho though. I moved to Arizona in 2010 to get away from Oregon. Yet here I am back here for a reason and not because I want to really be here. At least get out and stay out of Multnomah County is my advice.

 

[titsonritz]

Unfortunately, I'm stuck here because of my job, but if I were moving, this is most of what I need to know:
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If it's not dark red, I'm not moving there.

Edit: I'm not a native Oregonian. I've lived here about 5 years. If Oregon was a red state, it would be paradise.

I'd be content if it was a pink state as it is I see ID in my future.

 

[fredball]

Welcome Aboard

 

[Valhallarms]

And thats why nothing will ever change ..too many pansies in this day and age they get butthurt and run away... oh well some of us will die in place defending the land we love.

 

[cigars]

This is the norm. People who vote for top down soon turn the place they live into a sewer. So those with means up and move to a place that was freedom loving. Problem is as soon as they get there they start to vote to turn the new home into the same sewer they left. What makes it worse is so many freedom loving people either help the wrong people win or refuse to vote at all, so the sewer wins.

What you describe is the most dangerous virus of all.

 

[OldTengu]

And thats why nothing will ever change ..too many pansies in this day and age they get butthurt and run away... oh well some of us will die in place defending the land we love.

A lot of us here have spent a lot of time contacting legislators, contesting petition writers and their language, arranging gatherings in capitols (@Sporting Systems for sure), among other things that are about as close as we can get to marching on the Capital with an overthrow in mind without taking that step.
If you have done that as well, fantastic. Keep it up, and we're happy to have the help. If you're just being a keyboard commando, that's your loss, as you will alienate yourself quickly here.
Some of us, like myself, were born and raised in the pnw, but have seen greener pastures and wish to return to them, or, also like myself, have family in red states that could definitely use the help to stay 2a friendly, as the battle here on the Left coast is a losing one.

 

[Mike7b]

I moved to north Idaho back in 91, there were 2 reasons why. The handwriting was on the wall, the environmentalist were going to shut down the woods, and since I worked in the woods, I was not ready for a career change. The other was the califorincation, they would sell their place in cali for big bucks, buy a nice house and then buy up a few what was called starter houses for rentals. The real estate prices were crazy, there was no way I would be able to afford to buy a house. And the same thing is happening up here now, with the influx of calis, the young people are getting priced out. And reading different threads of what you guys go through to buy a gun, I shake my head. We have constitutional carry, ftf sales, fill out the 4473 and walk out 10 minutes later with your gun. There's no way I could move back to Oregon.

 

[Member 34319]

Damn, seeing Nevada light blue on that map pains me.

Moved here from Nevada. Love it.

Don't plan on leaving. Oregon has been good to my family and I.

Coming from a desert with nothing but a dead and further decaying industry of gambling, Oregon was literally a breath of fresh air. It has industry galore, food is actually grown here, forests everywhere, it's freaking green everywhere.

I could go on.

I get it, if I was raised here, I'd likely be jaded and see it differently. I hate going to Reno to visit. Town sucks. Yet, folks from here, when I tell them I am from there, say it's beautiful. I'm dumbfounded, but I can see how a dead desert of brown and grey nothing can be pretty to someone that lived in a green oasis of water and rain for their entire life.

Best of luck getting gone!

 

[Alexx1401]

I moved to north Idaho back in 91, there were 2 reasons why. The handwriting was on the wall, the environmentalist were going to shut down the woods, and since I worked in the woods, I was not ready for a career change. The other was the califorincation, they would sell their place in cali for big bucks, buy a nice house and then buy up a few what was called starter houses for rentals. The real estate prices were crazy, there was no way I would be able to afford to buy a house. And the same thing is happening up here now, with the influx of calis, the young people are getting priced out. And reading different threads of what you guys go through to buy a gun, I shake my head. We have constitutional carry, ftf sales, fill out the 4473 and walk out 10 minutes later with your gun. There's no way I could move back to Oregon.

That is great, for now. What you all there need to watch for is elections. OR and WA both were the same way not very long ago. What changed? A HUGE swath of gun owners in these states supported people like police state Jay and Kate and the people they vote with. The people who did this and own guns have a small book of excuses for why they do this. They get the book out every two years and follow it again. Bottom line the same thing is happening in your state now. Hopefully a lot of gun people and people who just like freedom, will throw that book of excuses out this November and vote to keep the freedoms before they are gone for you too.