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I didn't cherry pick anything, the data was all there for anyone to see. I didn't restrict it.

And speaking of cherry picking the data - how about you show the full data there in your screen capture - specifically how much was donated BY BENCHMADE instead of individual employees, since your (false) claim was that BENCHMADE donates a lot to Democrats?

I'll be waiting for the whole story.
My apologies, sir. I painted Benchmade with a broad brush. I'm from Georgia, so I don't english writing to gooder. I'll try to do better this time.

In past years, there have been several employees at Benchmade who have donated some large sums of money to democrat politicians. Benchmade the organization did not donate any money. Just like Benchmade the organization did not destroy a whole bunch of firearms, because well, Benchmade isn't a living, breathing entity. It was their employees who did it, either at their own discretion or from the direction of their management.

I look at 2016 and see that 4 employees dontated well over $16k to democrat politicians. That's a lot of money in my book. Could those 4 people be some janitors who decided to give lots of thier paycheck that year to democrat politicians? Maybe. Could it be the owners or executives who have that kind of coin to spend, gave their money to democrats? Maybe so too. But like you said - their money, their choice.

Either way, I'm off to my job to do my own janitorial duties. And from my earnings of that labor, the great State of Oregon will take a good portion of my paycheck and give it to people who need it more than I do. And when the State finishes that, they'll get busy on concocting new and creative ways to restrict my gun rights. But during my day today, I'm going to try my hardest not to spend my money at organizations whose employees or the business itself funnels the profits from my purchases to democrat politicians.
 
Benchmade gives to Ds who want to take our guns and had a multi-year program to destroy guns for the police.

Just like the NWFA member "actbluedonor" apparently gives to an organization doing the most to take our guns away.

Personally I would rather support those fighting for our gun rights like GOA, SAF, FPC, NSSF, Tony Aellio directly, or stores like adaptive firing solutions that donate a portion of sales to the m114 fight.
 
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The CEO who was in charge during the gun cutting fiasco died a few years ago.
I did not know that and it is nice to know. I have a couple of their knives that I have had for decades. They certainly were VERY well made. That cutting up those guns thing was just so damn tone deaf on their part. As for what people who work there do for supporting law makers that of course has nothing to do with the Co.
 
Benchmade gives to Ds who want to take our guns and had a multi-year program to destroy guns for the police.

Just like the NWFA member "actbluedonor" apparently gives to an organization doing the most to take our guns away.

Personally I would rather support those fighting for our gun rights like GOA, SAF, FPC, NSSF, Tony Aellio directly, or stores like adaptive firing solutions that donate a portion of sales to the m114 fight.
Didn't know this about Benchmade. Just to politicians or what do you mean by generically saying D's? Obviously democrat but who/what specifically? Thanks in advance for helping me learn!
 
Most businesses belong to the Chamber of Commerce, and we probably have a pretty good idea that in Portland Metro/Tri-County area that the owners and employees of most of those businesses are Ds and contribute to Ds.
Same with the city/county/state employees.
An owner wants to enlarge his parking lot or add on to the building or put up a sign, he's got to get a permit.
Permits are needed for just about anything, things probably go easier with a"wink-and-a-nod" when everybody's "on the same team".
We shop at places all the time that probably donate lots of money to Ds without us every knowing about it.
It seems like the times of big money donations and cutting-up guns pretty much ended when the previous owner died?
It won't matter, 20 years from now there'll still be those who'll never stop griping about what happened "Back in xxxx they cut some guns, and I'll never again give them a dime.'
Meanwhile, the reality is that those who buy their products stand to make a good profit over time
There are lots of good knives out there, but only a few of them actually increase in value very much if at all.
Go buy some CRKT knives, or Essee, or Gerber, or Buck, or Schrade, or any one of dozen others, and now buy some Benchmades.
Stick them all in the safe and wait a few years and see which ones pay you back the most.
I'm not making excuses for what they, (or the people working there,) did in the past, that's water under the bridge, but life goes on.
"Lord, let me change the things I can, accept the things I can't change, and have the brains to know the difference".
As you get older that saying comes more into focus.
 
Most businesses belong to the Chamber of Commerce, and we probably have a pretty good idea that in Portland Metro/Tri-County area that the owners and employees of most of those businesses are Ds and contribute to Ds.
Same with the city/county/state employees.
An owner wants to enlarge his parking lot or add on to the building or put up a sign, he's got to get a permit.
Permits are needed for just about anything, things probably go easier with a"wink-and-a-nod" when everybody's "on the same team".
We shop at places all the time that probably donate lots of money to Ds without us every knowing about it.
It seems like the times of big money donations and cutting-up guns pretty much ended when the previous owner died?
It won't matter, 20 years from now there'll still be those who'll never stop griping about what happened "Back in xxxx they cut some guns, and I'll never again give them a dime.'
Meanwhile, the reality is that those who buy their products stand to make a good profit over time
There are lots of good knives out there, but only a few of them actually increase in value very much if at all.
Go buy some CRKT knives, or Essee, or Gerber, or Buck, or Schrade, or any one of dozen others, and now buy some Benchmades.
Stick them all in the safe and wait a few years and see which ones pay you back the most.
I'm not making excuses for what they, (or the people working there,) did in the past, that's water under the bridge, but life goes on.
"Lord, let me change the things I can, accept the things I can't change, and have the brains to know the difference".
As you get older that saying comes more into focus.
Us old folks have long memories. I know people who still boycott Smith and Wesson for making that agreement with the Clinton Administration. Not me.
Heck, I don't even fret over the Hillary hole in their revolvers. I'd rather have one without, but it's not a deal breaker. I would also really hate to see S&W go out of business.

I've never really thought of a knife as a financial investment. (I use 'em, abuse 'em and lose 'em.) Guns either, really. Not that I'm above pointing out to the wife that I made a profit when I sell a gun for more than I paid for it. Generally, if you factor in inflation and opportunity cost, it really wasn't a great investment, but no need to dwell on that. :p

Living in Oregon, we're required to do way too much accepting (measure 114), and it hurts my brain.
 
I've never really thought of a knife as a financial investment. (I use 'em, abuse 'em and lose 'em.)
I never really did either, I use them every day, but I don't abuse them, (no batoning with a folder).
Some of the Benchmades, (like the Bugout or Griptilian,) they crank them out by the carload and everybody's got one, they'll not go up in value much if any.
Others that were more limited and/or they didn't make for very long have skyrocketed.
Go online and try to find a 610 Ruckus or a 119 Arvensis fixed blade, a decent used, (not abused,) one is 2> 3 times or so what they cost just a few years ago.
The older US made Cold Steel Carbon V knives are also in high demand.
Of course, the bubbas who stick good blades on a belt sander don't deserve a good knife.
 
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My apologies, sir. I painted Benchmade with a broad brush. I'm from Georgia, so I don't english writing to gooder. I'll try to do better this time.

In past years, there have been several employees at Benchmade who have donated some large sums of money to democrat politicians. Benchmade the organization did not donate any money. Just like Benchmade the organization did not destroy a whole bunch of firearms, because well, Benchmade isn't a living, breathing entity. It was their employees who did it, either at their own discretion or from the direction of their management.

I look at 2016 and see that 4 employees dontated well over $16k to democrat politicians. That's a lot of money in my book. Could those 4 people be some janitors who decided to give lots of thier paycheck that year to democrat politicians? Maybe. Could it be the owners or executives who have that kind of coin to spend, gave their money to democrats? Maybe so too. But like you said - their money, their choice.

Either way, I'm off to my job to do my own janitorial duties. And from my earnings of that labor, the great State of Oregon will take a good portion of my paycheck and give it to people who need it more than I do. And when the State finishes that, they'll get busy on concocting new and creative ways to restrict my gun rights. But during my day today, I'm going to try my hardest not to spend my money at organizations whose employees or the business itself funnels the profits from my purchases to democrat politicians.
We're all on the same side in the end - pro 2A, and Democrats are often on the wrong side of that.

At the end of the day, it's nearly impossible to completely avoid businesses that have no Democrat-supporting employees - especially in Oregon. You can try to minimize them, sure, but saying "if you give your money to X company, they'll give it to Democrats" - even assuming that by "they", you mean "some of the employees who get paid by that company, who might use their own money to fund Democrats" - you describe nearly every business in the United States.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a company of, say, above 5-10 employees who doesn't have a single person who supports Democrats. It's statistically extremely unlikely.

I'm not happy about it, but it is what it is.

That said, companies like Nike - who actively seek out left-leaning politicians and support leftist causes and proudly advertise such will not get a penny from me if I can help it. That's where I draw the line. Your employees will be your employees and do what employees do, but when your company takes stances, that's a different story altogether and you become fair game IMO.
 
Looks like you're in Oregon City which is where Benchmade is located. They will sharpen or fix anything on your blade for free. You can just drive in and have it done. I buy Benchmade for the same reason I buy Leupold. It's quality and it's right in my back yard.
I'm in Aloha and like you, I am big on being able to take my optics into Leupold and not have to deal with shipping. I get into Beavercreek once a month, so it's easy to stop by Benchmade if I need to.
 
Something I'm not gonna be pissed off if I lose. Probably a Kershaw made in China. I've only ever used it to breakdown boxes or cut food.
 

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