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Looking for 9mm Suggestions

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by MilitantBEEMER, Feb 15, 2014.

  1. MilitantBEEMER

    MilitantBEEMER Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    So I have had my Xds in 45 for a while now and cannot shoot it very well. The grip for me is too small and I cannot seem to control it. In light of this I have gone back to my Bersa 380 for EDC which fits me like a glove and also is a rock solid performer.

    What I am looking for is a Bersa/Walther/Sig style blow back in 9mm. However all my research keeps coming up empty. I love the fixed barrel and trigger system. I thought about looking for a XDs in 9mm but I fear it would be a waste do to grip size. I also have owned the much coveted shield in 9mm and did not like at all.

    My only other thought is the new R51, however after much research I am not willing to be one of the first to buy and experiment. Would like to have a solid performer with a good history.

    Anyway your thoughts on this subject are appreciated.
     
  2. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    I think the Hi-Point is a blowback design.. don't know about the fixed barrel.
    Actually what you don't want is a blowback/fixed barrel 9mm+ pistol.
    I think the new Remington is a .380.
     
  3. MilitantBEEMER

    MilitantBEEMER Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Maybe I am getting my terminology mixed up. The Bersa is a fixed barrel with recoil spring that slides over it. That is the type of 9mm I am looking for. Especially if it is similar in size and shape to a Bersa/Walther/Sig 007 style
     
  4. asiparks

    asiparks PDX Active Member

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    nearest thing I can think of would be a HK P7, which uses gas retarded blowback and is very compact...very accurate, solid and dependable, but no longer made and fairly spendy when you do find them.
    I'm trying to understand how the grip on the XD is too small for you, but you're requesting a weapon thats likely going to have a yet smaller one.
    If you want small for EDC look at the S&W Shield or one of the Kahrs. They are both very portable and shootable.

    wow ! the filter changed "gas r e t a r d e d" into "gas bubblegummed " ?
     
  5. MilitantBEEMER

    MilitantBEEMER Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    The grip on my Bersa is perfect for my hands. Reminds me of a 1911. I am somewhat concerned with size but have no problem concealing Bersa. I would ultimately carry a 1911 if it was not so darn heavy.

     
  6. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    I really wouldn't worry about it being a locked breech camming barrel type. They are very reliable and accurate.
    I know some of the new Bersa's are locked rotating bolt style but don't know if the barrel turns also or not.. it probably does.
     
  7. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    If you want an excellent 9mm in all things measurable consider a CZ.. I don't know if they make plastic guns but if they do, I'd not consider them as the standard ones have an outstandingly excellent reputation for reliability and ergonomics. They come in different sizes and different control/function options.
    They are locked breech/camming - tilting barrel design.
    They're not that expensive.. about the same as a Glock I think.
     
  8. MilitantBEEMER

    MilitantBEEMER Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Thank you CertainDeaf. Will check out CZ
     
  9. munkel

    munkel PDX Active Member

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    Have you considered getting the pinky extension for the mag to help with handling on the XDS? I am looking at one in 9mm and considering getting the extension. Just a thought....
     
  10. strick

    strick McMinnville Oregon Member

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    I have the xd-s in 9mm and as a big guy(6'8 300lbs). The grip is just fine for me. Even with the flush magazine I shoot it just fine.
     
  11. MilitantBEEMER

    MilitantBEEMER Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    May have to try that. Thank you
     
  12. MilitantBEEMER

    MilitantBEEMER Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    I wonder if it's more than caliber than grip. will have to find a 9mm and try it out
     
  13. mjn

    mjn Tri-Cities, Wa Active Member

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  14. munkel

    munkel PDX Active Member

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    maybe using the bigger mags would be useful too, not as concealable but if it helps....
     
  15. F2CMaDMaXX

    F2CMaDMaXX West of Portland from England Bullet goes where now? Staff Member Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    My XDS9 is one of the few smaller framed pistols i can actually grip well, nothing else fits, the whole finger hanging off things really irks me, this, however, is nice.
     
  16. usagi

    usagi Redmond Well-Known Member

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    you do NOT want a blowback 9mm.

    in a compact pistol, a blowback 9mm would have brutal recoil. the only true 9mm blowback pistol i'm aware of is the hi-point and it's massive.

    you want a locked breech short recoil system. which virtually all moderm 9mm designs are.

    you like the bersa trigger, so you basically like hammer fired DA/SA.

    there are various guns in the CZ-75 line that would meet your needs, ergonomics are generally very good. the cz 2075 rami bd is the closest to the bersa in terms of size and function. but i'd recommend the cz-75 p-01. they are extremely reliable handguns and have a long proven track record.
    CZ P-01
    CZ 2075 RAMI BD

    if you are willing to entertain a striker fired polymer pistol, the s&w m&p shield in 9mm is a good choice. a very compact pistol with great ergonomics.
    Product: Smith & Wesson M&P SHIELD? 9mm

    you might also just check out the xds in 9mm. 45acp tends to have more recoil than 9mm.
     
  17. MilitantBEEMER

    MilitantBEEMER Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Thank you will take a look at cz