Liability

[badbob85037]

Sorry I haven't been around for a while. Hard drive crashed and lost everything. But a quick search on Google let me see every little thing I have wrote and places I had been the last 10 years. Ain't the Internet great!?
Anyway since 1950 every shooting where 3 or more people have been killed, with one exception here in Tucson the killings took place where one's Second Amendment right was restricted. A stat that goes back before they called Gun Free Zones Gun Free Zones except the media who never call anyplace a shooting took place a Gun Free Zone. Every time some crazed idiot goes on one of these killing of innocents we hear from the same group of branch bait tyrants the same talking points. One of those is wanting to hold anyone that had anything to do with the weapon used be held accountable for the carnage.

The theater in Colorado where the shooting happened last year had signs posted around the theater 'NO FIREARMS ALLOWED'. Now these idiots that owned the theater had every right to deny their patrons their right of self protection. But by denying them that right they had the responsibility of protecting the ones they left defenseless. Where a firearms manufacturer or past owner of a weapon has no say on what happened to a weapon once it leaves their hands these idiots did have control of their customers destiny and we all saw the results. So where are the wrongful death lawsuits against these morons whose actions cost so many their life? Liberalism isn't a political way of thinking it's a mental disorder. So sue these libtards or put them in places they can't hurt anyone. Like face down 100 feet under. Because deep down libtards are good people. All except the one in the White House but he is more a cockroach than a libtard.

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[luke23]

Aside from the tangential rant at the end, you raise an interesting point. I'd love to see a series of civil suits about this. Honestly I'm surprised the NRA hasn't already done so.

 

[Stomper]

I have always been of the opinion that if a (private/public) place of business is freely open to the general public where anyone can walk in off the street and they have a "no weapons/firearms" policy, that they should install and operate controlled access points with metal detectors and conduct bag inspections at all entrances and/or assume the responsibility (and liability) for the personal safety of every patron in the joint.

Furthermore, since they don't at the moment, and short of metal detectors/controlled access points, my 2A rights and personal protection reaponsibilities trumps your "private property rights" in your place of business that is open to the "GENERAL POPULATION".

Will I flaunt my weapons and attitude while exercising my right to self-defense? He'll no. First; out of respect for others' sensibilities. Second; to contribute to a peaceful environment, because a public/private place of business is not about my ability and means to defend myself (or others).

In either event, one way or the other, deal with it.

 

[U201491]

I have always been of the opinion that if a (private/public) place of business is freely open to the general public where anyone can walk in off the street and they have a "no weapons/firearms" policy, that they should install and operate controlled access points with metal detectors and conduct bag inspections at all entrances and/or assume the responsibility (and liability) for the personal safety of every patron in the joint.

Furthermore, since they don't at the moment, and short of metal detectors/controlled access points, my 2A rights and personal protection reaponsibilities trumps your "private property rights" in your place of business that is open to the "GENERAL POPULATION".

Will I flaunt my weapons and attitude while exercising my right to self-defense? He'll no. First; out of respect for others' sensibilities. Second; to contribute to a peaceful environment, because a public/private place of business is not about my ability and means to defend myself (or others).

In either event, one way or the other, deal with it.

 

[badbob85037]

Here in Arizona all honest citizens can carry concealed. I'm 100% with you on the business can deal with it. I do try to avoid these places though for two reasons One, I don't want to give them a dime for any service or goods and two for the owner to put up a sign giving the criminal a guarantee of a safe workplace that owner is a few suites short a full deck. Liberalism isn't a political belief, it's a mental illness that puts the infected at risk of his safety and all those around him.

A couple of weeks ago I was with me two grandsons 5 and seven shooting their bb guns. It's how I Taught my 3 girls gun safety and how my father taught me. An older child in the neighborhood wanted to shoot one of the guns. After giving a talking on the rules he shot one of the guns a few times. He went home and told his mother what he had done and this welfare sucking baby factory went out of her way making me out as some criminal allowing her child to shoot. Using common sense I told her in a nation with the right of self protection teaching a child gun safety was as important as teaching a child to cross the street and every time I read a story of a child dying who got a hold of a loaded gun that child's parents were at fault. But we both know Liberals and common sense go together as pickles and ice cream. Somewhere between Kerry and obama's run for president these 'something for nothing' Libtards became the majority. Until someone finds a cure for these mental morons, an armed revolt, or an organizer genocide no voting booth will bring this nation back to Constitutional rule

 

[deen_ad]

I have always been of the opinion that if a (private/public) place of business is freely open to the general public where anyone can walk in off the street and they have a "no weapons/firearms" policy, that they should install and operate controlled access points with metal detectors and conduct bag inspections at all entrances and/or assume the responsibility (and liability) for the personal safety of every patron in the joint.

As I remember reading the mall in Africa that they killed some 60+ people DID have armed guards and metal detectors at the entrances. The criminals just shot their way through.


Deen
NRA Life Member, Benefactor Level
"Defender of Freedom" award
NRA Recruiter
Second Amendment Foundation Member
Washington Arms Collectors Member
Arms Collectors of SW Washington Member

"Having a gun is like a parachute, if you need one and don't have it you may never need it again"

 

[Koda]

I have always been of the opinion that if a (private/public) place of business is freely open to the general public where anyone can walk in off the street and they have a "no weapons/firearms" policy, that they should install and operate controlled access points with metal detectors and conduct bag inspections at all entrances and/or assume the responsibility (and liability) for the personal safety of every patron in the joint.

on the surface this seems like a good argument but in reality they would have to provide armed escort to and from the store and your home. Not realistic. Reality is if I feel I need to CCW while shopping then I don't want to leave a firearm in the parking lot.

Furthermore, since they don't at the moment, and short of metal detectors/controlled access points, my 2A rights and personal protection reaponsibilities trumps your "private property rights" in your place of business that is open to the "GENERAL POPULATION".

this right here is what needs to pass as a law. A public business owner can get in huge trouble for discriminating against a certified victim group but they can discriminate against a constitutional right, what gives?

Will I flaunt my weapons and attitude while exercising my right to self-defense? He'll no. First; out of respect for others' sensibilities. Second; to contribute to a peaceful environment, because a public/private place of business is not about my ability and means to defend myself (or others).

 

[U201491]

As I remember reading the mall in Africa that they killed some 60+ people DID have armed guards and metal detectors at the entrances. The criminals just shot their way through.


Deen
NRA Life Member, Benefactor Level
"Defender of Freedom" award
NRA Recruiter
Second Amendment Foundation Member
Washington Arms Collectors Member
Arms Collectors of SW Washington Member

"Having a gun is like a parachute, if you need one and don't have it you may never need it again"

I believe that one caused Interpol to suggest all citizens should be armed.