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A very expensive education and one that will be never forgotten. He didn't think the g in front of the serial number ment anything.
I believe G serials started in 1969, so no-G alone doesn't identify a pre-64 M70.

Bruce
 
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Found this reference for those who want to save a copy.

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Bruce
 
Found this reference for those who want to save a copy.

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Bruce
So from that ☝️ table, the Grand Sobo's M70 was actually manufactured in late-1945, and not in 1946, as I had thought.
The S/N on his rifle lands lands about 2,000 rifles under the 1946 S/N start number...

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Thanks for that info, Bruce!
 
Thanks for the reference chart.

So I have a 30-06 made in 1963 and another made in 1988.

I just put the 1963 rifle into a Boyd laminate stock and have got to zero it,
 
Not pre-64's, but 64's! (and nearly as significant in Model 70 history). These are both first-year production Model 70's in .225 Winchester. Top is a Varminter, bottom is a Sporter with custom wood (original stock retained).

The post-64 Model 70's could never match the older guns for fit, finish, and action design, but more often than not, they shot better. These bear that out.

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How do you like the Boyd stock? Which one did you pick?
I picked the Classic in Nutmeg laminate. I'm afraid I don't have any pictures of it at this time.

The old stock felt lighter. But the rubber butt pad on the old stock has turned into rock and my old shoulder didn't like it. The Boyd stock has the LimbSaver pad on it.

I do like the Boyd stock. I think it looks great. It does not have any checkering on it so I have been thinking of putting some Talon grip material on the forward grip area. Talon grip material is like a rubberized skateboard tape. I think it will improve the handling in the rain.
 
Picked up a new production 7mm Rem Mag Model 70 not too long ago. It's the Super Grade with the French walnut stock. High gloss blue finish on the action and the 26" barrel. This is not a lightweight rifle. It shoots pretty well though. Have a 3.5-10x Leupold on it. Haven't hunted with it yet. My photos do not do justice to the beauty of that stock! I need to get it out for some more shooting, on a sunny day when the grain will really "pop" in the photos.

I've had a few Model 70's over the years, but this is my only one currently.

Regards, Guy

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I have two pre-64's: a 1948 in .270 (first picture), and a 1942 in .30-06. I inherited them both. My great Aunt bought the 270 new. shortly after the war. She was in Washington working the shipyards for the war effort, and when she came back to Montana, she picked it up. She took countless deer, antelope, and even a moose in 1955 with it. It is my treasure, and I have taken well over 100 game animals with it. She gave it to me about 10 years before she passed, and I called her every time I shot something with it.

The '06 I received from an old boss and dear friend. His uncle bought it new, and he had no one to pass it on to. Both print almost identical groups, and both will shoot anything I put through them the same. I have the 270 sighted in with 150 grain handloads, and the '06 with 180's. If I use different bullet weights, they print the same group, just higher or lower.

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I like this new "sub forum". Here's your chance to show off your nice Winchester model 70's. I have had pre 64's, post 64 pushfeeds and CRF, USRAC, WRA, and FN BACO. I'm down to just pre 64's right now, but that can change if I ran across the right stainless classic CRF. My collection is way down, but here they are:

270 Winchester fwt. made in 1957, coupled to a Mcmillan hunters compact stock with red pachmayr decelerator recoil pad. A favorite of mine and it's extremely accurate:


100% original 30-06 fwt made in 1956:


Semi custom 338 win mag: 1954 H&H receiver, Gre tan stainless barrel, Brown precision pounder stock with red pachmayr decelerator, midnight blue cerakote, holds 4 rounds in the magazine, weighs 7 3/4 pounds all up (pictured):


My big African rifle: 1956 375 H&H with Mcmillan pre 64 montecarlo pattern swirly stock with the old style coyote bomber color scheme:


Post pics of your 70's if you have them.....

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BSA 1917
Great thread stater I am new to the forum and I just found this thread ,
I have only 1 model 70 rifle she is a Pre-64
Bull barrel target model made in 1957 with
US Property electro penciled on the Receiver she was sold thru the DCM in May of 1964 and was shipped out of Tule Utah army depot


I found a new old stock 1960's Unertl 20x target scope
I Am still working on finding to best 168 grain NM load for it

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Lake City brass and IMR 4895 is very difficult to beat for .30-06 target loads. If you're planning on shooting beyond 600 yards, seriously consider a 175 grain BTHP; it's been the 30 caliber benchmark at 1,000 yards for over two decades.
Thank you for that USMC-03 I was trying to copy the M-72 load
IMR 4895 with 48 grains
Nosler 168 grain NM bullets and so far she is not liking it so I am backing down to 44 grains and work up slowly to find a good group

Since you posted i will throw this one ☝️

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BSA 1917
Great thread stater I am new to the forum and I just found this thread ,
I have only 1 model 70 rifle she is a Pre-64
Bull barrel target model made in 1957 with
US Property electro penciled on the Receiver she was sold thru the DCM in May of 1964 and was shipped out of Tule Utah army depot


I found a new old stock 1960's Unertl 20x target scope
I Am still working on finding to best 168 grain NM load for it

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FYI, bsa1917hunter has been inactive on this sight for several years.
But it is a great thread!
 
Nothing too special, an XTR in .30-06, push-feed. When Olin quit making Winchester product circa 1980, an employee owned concern took over and it was called US Repeating Arms (USRA). They had some of the same problems that caused Olin to quit in the first place. And more than a few not so good rifles left the factory under their operation. USRA in this iteration went into bankruptcy and was in that process from around 1986-89. A French government company called GIAT took over, which I think had 30% financing from FN Herstal, and then turned around and sold it all to FN.

This rifle here was an early product of USRA after FN took it over. It was sitting in the racks of the dealer where I've done most of my shipping business. I got a good price on it, and wouldn't have bought it except for it being an FN product, rather than an earlier USRA. For one thing, once FN took over USRA, they started using much nicer wood for the stocks. It has a Bushnell nothing scope on it, but it seems to be okay for my limited use. I've had it to the range once for zeroing, that was it.

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At the time I bought this rifle, I was looking for a bolt action .30-06 as I had none. Right after I bought this, a nice Ruger 77 Mk II came along in .30-06 at a good deal and I bought that one as well.
 
At the time I bought this rifle, I was looking for a bolt action .30-06 as I had none. Right after I bought this, a nice Ruger 77 Mk II came along in .30-06 at a good deal and I bought that one as well.
I have both a Pre-64 70 in 30-06 and a Ruger 77MKII in 30-06. The Winchester sits in the safe, the Ruger goes hunting and has done a couple of Appleseed events, as well.
Both are great guns, but the Ruger is a lot easier to pack around.
 

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