Lets be diligent with gun malfunctions!

[Member 53867]

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[gmerkt]

And if you are, for some reason, going to look down the barrel, for Heaven's sake, keep your finger out of the trigger guard area.

I think it's called, "being mindful." Just lately, I was reading one of those online articles like, 10 rules of life for senior citizens. One was, "being mindful." That is, pay attention to what you're doing. Don't go slap dash into something and hurry it up for no good reason. A simple thing like not paying attention to climbing or descending stairs is a good example. Take the time to take each step with caution.

 

[1911Fanatic]

And if you are, for some reason, going to look down the barrel, for Heaven's sake, keep your finger out of the trigger guard area.

I think it's called, "being mindful." Just lately, I was reading one of those online articles like, 10 rules of life for senior citizens. One was, "being mindful." That is, pay attention to what you're doing. Don't go slap dash into something and hurry it up for no good reason. A simple thing like not paying attention to climbing or descending stairs is a good example. Take the time to take each step with caution.

Unfortunately, things like this makes all gun owner look bad and all guns look dangerous, which they won't be if handled properly.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Here's my speculation:

He was shooting a semi-auto handgun, and a round got stuck in the chamber that wouldn't eject. He closed the slide and turned the gun to see what he could see in the barrel and in the process of turning the gun he pulled the trigger. Kind of like when you look over your shoulder while driving and turn the wheel as you do it....most practiced drivers, of course, can head-check without moving the car in the lane.

Or, thinking that he was safe, he had the slide locked back and turned the gun towards himself to look down the barrel for the same reason, inadvertently (or purposefully) hit the slide release, which came home into battery and discharged the round. But I can't recall off the top of my head this happening to any modern semi-auto....I dunno, maybe the Sig P320? Or an old 1911?

 

[Saladfarmer]

Well. One thing.. In the world we live in now, there's cameras everywhere. If it's a public range, usually every lane has a camera. I have to wonder if there was a RSO on scene or was it not that kind of place. If there was, what happened that he didn't have a chance to intervene?
The video will surface one day if there is one and one of the prominent gun toobers will have it on their gun fails or Darwin award shows. Until then we can have fun speculating.
I think he saw leprechaun dashing down the barrel after a light strike caused by the 4# striker spring he put in his Glock to give it a 1911 trigger feel. Then, forgot to wait for the 3 second rule of a hang fire and looked down the barrel for the lucky charms stealing leprechaun and whammo.

 

[jabayevx]

Unfortunately, things like this makes all gun owner look bad and all guns look dangerous, which they won't be if handled properly.

Guns are inherently dangerous. That's the nature of the tool.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Guns are inherently dangerous. That's the nature of the tool.

I would say that firearms are not dangerous.

I could load , put a round in the chamber and switch the safety to off , on a firearm and place it on my kitchen table.
That firearm will do nothing by itself.

What I or someone else does with it...after they pick it up....may be dangerous.
But the firearm , all by itself ain't dangerous.
Andy

Edit to add :
Saying something like "Guns are dangerous " ....
Is dangerously close ( pun intended ) to blaming the gun for the mishap / misuse.
Which is exactly what some anti gun people do.

 

[Member 45541]

I would say that firearms are not dangerous.

I could load , put a round in the chamber and switch the safety to off , on a firearm and place it on my kitchen table.
That firearm will do nothing by itself.

What I or someone else does with it...after they pick it up....may be dangerous.
But the firearm , all by itself ain't dangerous.
Andy

FACT!

 

[WillametteWill]

But I can't recall off the top of my head this happening to any modern semi-auto....I dunno, maybe the Sig P320? Or an old 1911?

I think these are both modern firearms (and I think @Andy54Hawken would agree). I've found neither one to go off on their own without user input.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

I think these are both modern firearms (and I think @Andy54Hawken would agree). I've found neither one to go off on their own without user input.

Only too true.

My Series '70 is very modern when compared to my oldest pistol that I own.....
Andy

Colt Series '70 Government Model

• Andy54Hawken
• Sep 18, 2024

Antique Wheel Lock Pistol of mine.

• Andy54Hawken
• Nov 25, 2021

 

[jabayevx]

I would say that firearms are not dangerous.

I could load , put a round in the chamber and switch the safety to off , on a firearm and place it on my kitchen table.
That firearm will do nothing by itself.

What I or someone else does with it...after they pick it up....may be dangerous.
But the firearm , all by itself ain't dangerous.
Andy

Edit to add :
Saying something like "Guns are dangerous " ....
Is dangerously close ( pun intended ) to blaming the gun for the mishap / misuse.
Which is exactly what some anti gun people do.

They're dangerous tools I don't know why people want to pretend they aren't.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Mistakes / mishaps happen when using firearms.
Unlike many other things....mistakes made with firearms can easily be life altering.

The causes of mistakes / mishaps with firearms are many :

Unfamiliarity / ignorance with firearms...

Willful ignorance...which is worse...because , in that case someone was given the chance to become familiar with firearms....
Yet chose to do otherwise.
This is not to say everyone must be familiar with firearms...However it is wise to know yourself and not let ego , assumption or the like stop you from becoming safe .

Faulty parts or design...this happens.
With that said....if you are familiar with your firearm , you should know if parts are worn...or the design is faulty.
Again...this mishap is due to poor gun handling.

Not following firearm safety rules as well as being complacent about them.
Know basic firearm safety....follow firearm safety....do not get lax about doing so.

Speed / stress / being rushed. / not paying attention / distracted ...
Don't get into a hurry when checking / handling / clearing a firearm....
Yes I know that in some competitions , speed is a factor...and some courses use a malfunction drill to base points off of....
Don't let your desire for a high score , be the reason for a "Oops moment " with a firearm.

Stress can cause you to think , see , and hear what you expect to be done , have happen , etc...
Take an extra moment to be sure of what you have done.

Distracted....
Easy to become...again...take a moment and be sure of what you are doing.
Andy

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

They're dangerous tools I don't know why people want to pretend they aren't.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

They're dangerous tools I don't know why people want to pretend they aren't.

I am not pretending....
I stand by my statements of :
Firearms are not dangerous....people and their actions , can be dangerous.

Again....
Your comment reads damn close to many anti - gun people and their argument that guns are dangerous...
As In blaming the object ( gun in this case ) ....
I don't agree and can't do that.
Andy

 

[Andy54Hawken]

One of my favorite rifles.....

Doc Brown Longrifle.

• Andy54Hawken
• May 5, 2024
• 1

This past summer , I noticed that the hammer would fall if placed into half or even full cock....
That said....the rifle was not dangerous , by itself.
However...the act of loading and attempting to fire it , would be dangerous.

So....
I took the lock apart....
Clean it and inspected it ...I found that the sear was worn and chipped.
A new sear was found...and shaped to fit...then heat treated / hardened....problem solved.

Again....firearms , even ones with worn parts are not dangerous.
People and their actions with firearms...can be dangerous.

Oh just for fun and to show what a flintlock sear looks like...
It is in the picture below...the "L" shaped piece at the bottom left....shown slightly cut off....oops....
Andy

Inside view of a Flintlock , Musket lock.

• Andy54Hawken
• Aug 16, 2024

 

[deadeye]

I would say that firearms are not dangerous.

I could load , put a round in the chamber and switch the safety to off , on a firearm and place it on my kitchen table.
That firearm will do nothing by itself.

What I or someone else does with it...after they pick it up....may be dangerous.
But the firearm , all by itself ain't dangerous.
Andy

Edit to add :
Saying something like "Guns are dangerous " ....
Is dangerously close ( pun intended ) to blaming the gun for the mishap / misuse.
Which is exactly what some anti gun people do.

Yep all my firearms are lazy they need a nudge from a stupid human before they get off their butts to become dangerous.

 

[MikeInOr]

Guns are inherently dangerous. That's the nature of the tool.

Just like my woodworking tools, metal machining tools and automobiles, guns are able to cause extreme harm very quickly with no take backs. I consider people that don't respect the power of all these tools foolish. I am not afraid of any of these tools but I always am extra attentive and extra careful when using any of them.

I have been hit several times by individuals that didn't respect the ability of the vehicle they are driving to cause damage. Fortunately I think "most" gun owners are more respectful of the power of their firearms than the average motorist is respectful of the ability of their vehicle to cause damage.

 

[orygun]

They're dangerous tools I don't know why people want to pretend they aren't.

So, do you place saws, razors, lawn mowers and knives in the same "dangerous" category?

 

[RVTECH]

The guy should have read the name of the gun range - over and over..
at Shoot Smart, a gun range and training facility.

But seriously I wonder how this got missed by an R.O.

From what I read (and seen) they are typically 'on top' of this and react to improper gun handling pretty quickly.

 

[Member 53867]

The guy should have read the name of the gun range - over and over..
at Shoot Smart, a gun range and training facility.

Shoot Smart, Shoot S-Mart!