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They offered you a bore light; counter offer for them to provide an endoscope so you can inspect the bore.
elsie
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I like how you linked it from Cabelas.I had no idea what that was, so I looked it up. Super low profile, will fit places even a mini flashlight won't.
And what exactly could go wrong?Before jumping on Cabelas consider it from their view. How many gun owners would sue the moment something went wrong? It's all about the lawyers and a litigation happy public. The number of gun owners who would sue is probably close to the number of gun owners who voted for 114. Both numbers are non-zero.
I thought it was only required by law to provide a lock when the gun was sold?The lock on guns is a law. I can't remember what brilliant left wing law it was, but the gun is supposed to stay locked.
BiMart in Scappoose let me run a pistol without a lock.
Some stores have the policy of keeping them locked in the store. I guess it depends on how you interpret the law that requires all guns not in your immediate control must be locked.I thought it was only required by law to provide a lock when the gun was sold?
Is it a law that says a gun must be locked closed when selling it?
Doc, sorry yours was disappointing.Manager offered me a bore light, but the action was electronically banded shut.
To all who want to know why...And what exactly could go wrong?
SB 554 section 4. 2021.I thought it was only required by law to provide a lock when the gun was sold?
Is it a law that says a gun must be locked closed when selling it?
thats for the actual transfer of the guns ownership. Not the selling. I dont interpret that law in any way as saying all guns have to be locked out for a buyer to check out.SB 554 section 4. 2021.
(Transfers)
SECTION 4. (1) If a person transfers a firearm and a criminal background check under
ORS 166.435 is required prior to the transfer, the person shall transfer the firearm:
(a) With an engaged trigger or cable lock; or
(b) In a locked container.
(2)(a) A violation of subsection (1) of this section is a Class C violation.
(b) Each firearm transferred in violation of subsection (1) of this section constitutes a
separate violation.
(3) If a firearm transferred in a manner that violates subsection (1) of this section is
used to injure a person or property within two years of the violation, in an action against
the transferor to recover damages for the injury, the violation of subsection (1) of this sec-
tion constitutes per se negligence, and the presumption of negligence may not be overcome
by a showing that the transferor acted reasonably.
(4) Subsection (3) of this section does not apply if the injury results from a lawful act
of self-defense or defense of another person.
(5) This section does not apply to:
(a) The transfer of a firearm made inoperable for the specific purpose of being used as
a prop in the making of a motion picture or a television, digital or similar production.
(b) A transfer that occurs when a firearm is taken from the owner or possessor of the
firearm by force.
From articles that I read, this includes FFL's/Stores. Depending on how you interpret it, some stores go the safe route. I could not find an exception for gun stores.
back in the 80s there was a crime spree where the bad guy did just that. The tell tale sign someones gonna do that is when the case the joint and say "I'll be back"...To all who want to know why...
Man tried to shoot store employees after loading gun he was looking at
This was at a Sportsmans in Kennewick, WA last year. Sportsmans moved to the locks when Cabelas was trying to buy them out and believe they kept the policy because of this. I think many at Sportsmans will take the lock off so if they don't for a particular person it might be because the customer is giving off the vibe that they may be shot . I don't think the Kennewick example is the only time this has happened. Seems like I remember another case were someone loaded a gun and then robbed a place.
So, it turns out the customer is not always right.
This is from OFF, 2021.thats for the actual transfer of the guns ownership. Not the selling. I dont interpret that law in any way as saying all guns have to be locked out for a buyer to check out.
No ones going to buy a gun they cant cycle the action.
from the lawful transfer.This is from OFF, 2021.
There is nothing in the bill that exempts gun stores from all these locking requirements. It is not known how they will be able to comply with these regulations. So far, no one has thought to inquire about that during the floor debates.
I have seen a few of these questions asked, but no definitive answer.
I agree with you, but there seems to be some confusion even at the store level.from the lawful transfer.
its not a transfer to show someone your gun.
I realize everyone interprets the laws differently and this forum has days of discussion on interpreting these laws but this isnt a problem letting a prospective buyer check out a gun. When the legal transfer happens, then, the store must comply.
If this was an issue all gun stores would have been shut down by now or buyers would have revolted by now. I dont know anyone that would buy a gun without at least cycling the action.
At the one I go to, guns are unlocked but you have to give them your ID before they will hand it to you.Bimart did the same thing with their pistols and the trigger locks.
Half of buying a firearm is seeing what the trigger feels like.. their policy is to keep it locked and literally just buy the pistol by looking at it.
I get safety and whatnot, but actual gun shops don't have that policy.. if they are going to have a gun section then let customers check things out. Heck, take the license from the customer, then even have neutered firing pins in the display models if it's such a concern.
I find those lock up policies bogus if they deny a customer the ability to properly check a firearm out.