Just got a love letter from the ATF

[wired]

Additional steps: eForm 1 Silencer submission ​

Looks like theyre going to get a pic of my mill and lathe and a pile of metal. Dear eForm 1 applicant, The National Firearms Act (NFA) Division received your ATF eForm 1, Application to Make and Register a Firearm. As a part of the application process, NFA Division must confirm that the making or possession of a firearm would not place the applicant in violation of law.[1] NFA Division requests that you provide certain additional information so that it may determine whether your eForm 1 application to make a silencer may lawfully be approved. Specifically, please submit to NFA Division the following:​ Pictures of the parts that you will use to make the silencer (the pictures should be clear and allow the identification of the parts photographed), A description of the processes you will use to assemble or fabricate the silencer, The product, model, or kit name, if any, of each device and/or part that you will use to make the silencer, and The source from which the parts were obtained, i.e., the name of the store, website, etc. The additional information may be submitted to NFA Division at the following email address: [email protected]. Please include the form Permit Control Number or eForm ID in the Subject bar for each correspondence with attachments. The additional information may also be sent by mail to: Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives National Firearms Act Division 244 Needy Road Martinsburg, WV25405 Without the additional descriptive information, NFA Division will be unable to determine whether the eForm 1 application to make a silencer may lawfully be approved. Therefore, failure to submit the requested information by March 25, 2022, will result in your application being disapproved and your $200.00 making tax refunded.​

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[OldTengu]

Buttholes

 

[papersoldier]

Is this new thing? I got nothing like that last year with my Form 1.

In any case, what a load of bull.

 

[drstrangelove]

So they want you to be a narc, and, self incriminate yourself. Great.

 

[User 1234]

They've been taking lessons from the California DoJ. This is what happens when citizens are required to undergo a computer application in order to get permission for something. He who controls the computer is the boss, even when the software requirements are not based on any law. It takes months or years to get a judge to force them to modify the software to match the law.

 

[wired]

They want to see your machine tools and your bar stock. Solvent traps are over

 

[wired]

Fortunately I have machine tools and bar stock

 

[Member 34319]

They want to see your machine tools and your bar stock. Solvent traps are over

Im waiting for the first report of using Google image search!

 

[drstrangelove]

Im waiting for the first report of using Google image search!

That's all good until they pay you a visit to inspect your shop.

 

[Member 34319]

That's all good until they pay you a visit to inspect your shop.

Just print out a large picture of a lathe and put it in the wall in the garage.

 

[red442joe]

"Division must confirm that the making or possession of a firearm would not place the applicant in violation of law"

How the eph does this work???
A-holes!

Joe

 

[huntpotter]

So you just need to send them a picture of a raw bar stock, a lathe, a boring bar, and threading inserts?

 

[wired]

So you just need to send them a picture of a raw bar stock, a lathe, a boring bar, and threading inserts?

That's about what I did

 

[308]

Show us your your lathe and bar stock

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[wired]

Permit/Control No: 2022304xxx

To whom it concerns

I will be building a 8" long 5.56mm specific silencer using mostly grade 2 titanium baffles that I will be machining on my South Bend lathe. The first two baffles in the silencer will be stainless steel Additional machining steps will be carried out using my Bridgeport milling machine. Ina addition I have a vintage Hendey lathe enroute that I will be transitioning to.



The baffles will be Omega style and will consist of 7 qty baffles bored to .325" as this will be used on a Kalashnikov variant rifle and I need a wide bore spacing to prevent baffle strikes and to keep the gas system pressure down to a reasonable level. Baffles will be 1.355" diameter and single clipped. There will be a sleeve internally to allow for easier baffle removal and cleaning

The Distal cap will be stainless steel and machined to 1.4375"x 20 for the tube side and 26x1.5mm for the rifle side.


List of components:

Grade 2 1 foot long Titanium rod: https://www.mcmaster.com/89145K23-89145K431/

Grade 2 1 foot long titanium tubing https://www.onlinemetals.com/en/buy...itanium-round-tube-grade-2-seamless/pid/20849



The equipment that will be used :

Bridgeport Mill




Southbend lathe




Hendey Lathe

 

[JohnnyMac]

So they want you to be a narc, and, self incriminate yourself. Great.

100% my first thought.

 

[3MTA3]

The Hearing Protection Act needs to be passed and signed in early 2025 assuming the expected political shift happens. The only reason they are NFA to begin with was fear of poaching when the NFA was passed during the depression. Even more ridiculous is that silencers are mandatory for hunting in many countries that are otherwise not very firearm friendly. I guess Authoritarians just gotta Authoritarian.

 

[NCW_Robert]

I be curious if they approve this... or not. Watching this thread.

I also be a machinist and might like to make one in the future.

Probably wait for a different administration to be in charge though.

 

[jbett98]

Sounds like somebody at the ATF took notice of all the form 1's you've submitted lately.
Maybe they think you're running a suppressor factory.

 

[OldTengu]

The Hearing Protection Act needs to be passed and signed in early 2025 assuming the expected political shift happens. The only reason they are NFA to begin with was fear of poaching when the NFA was passed during the depression. Even more ridiculous is that silencers are mandatory for hunting in many countries that are otherwise not very firearm friendly. I guess Authoritarians just gotta Authoritarian.

It's a big club, and we aren't in it.
Every year, both major parties trot out some bullschit to rile up/satiate their base.
The hearing protection act will never be passed or signed.
The NFA and GCA will NEVER be repealed.
It will always be hinted at that there is a possibility of this to drum up support for BOTH major parties.

Sorry.