Is your EDC a Sig P365?

[1775usmc]

I don't follow popular opinions! I just go with what I want and what works for me. Every brand has good ones and bad ones at times. Like I said in my OP, I didn't like the way it felt at first. But, after handling it a good bit lately, you can see my mind was changed. Not by what anyone said, but by what my hands and mind felt. If it shoots as good as it feels to me now, I'll be good until the next whimsical desire hits me!

That's all that matters. We live in an era of a myriad of options and choices when it comes to firearms. With that comes just as many opinions and biases. But like you said. At the end of the day what works for you and what you trust with your life is a personal choice and the only one that matters.

 

[HA556]

I just discovered these grip modules y'all were talking about. Pretty neat little option. Not sure I'll do anything like that 'til I have plenty of rounds down range to see how it feels and shoots. I'm not one to customize too much but, have went down that hole once or twice in my time!

 

[1775usmc]

I just discovered these grip modules y'all were talking about. Pretty neat little option. Not sure I'll do anything like that 'til I have plenty of rounds down range to see how it feels and shoots. I'm not one to customize too much but, have went down that hole once or twice in my time!

That's the biggest positive to the P365 and P320 line. That the FCU is serialized and not the frame. Allowing you to swap out sizes and basically configure the gun however you like it. Without having to do a 4473 every time you buy a new frame. Plus they are pretty cheap.

 

[spookshack]

I concur fully, But then, I'm probably a novice compared to some of the SIG haters posting, I've only been shooting handguns for 57 years, 44 of which were active duty military and law enforcement.

Old Dog indeed……

 

[ilikegunspdx]

I just discovered these grip modules y'all were talking about. Pretty neat little option. Not sure I'll do anything like that 'til I have plenty of rounds down range to see how it feels and shoots. I'm not one to customize too much but, have went down that hole once or twice in my time!

Everyone seems to love the Wilson combat ones fwiw. I don't have it personally. Usually if I want to add grip or even thicken the grip slightly I use these:

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I just buy the $4 Glock gen 3 or gen 4 and use them on any grip. Can cut down if desired but I don't bother. I buy 10 at a time ($40 total) and then if I ever want to try thicker grip or see if more grip helps put them on whatever gun.

 

[spookshack]

I have two 365's. One is an XL and the other started out as a factory stock FCU. It now has a MCarbo short stroke flat face trigger and MCarbo trigger spring kit (sear spring, striker spring, striker block spring). Armory Craft extended slide stop and extended ambi safety). WC X Macro grip module. 4.1 slide and fluted barrel from Shalotek. XS sights (serrated blacked out rear with tritium front. Last but not least, a direct mounted Holosun EPS.

The above for me, is about as close to the perfect EDC I'm likely to ever get. I previously owned a G48, but just didn't do it for me. Lack of a manual ambi safety and the less than optimal grip angle and texture.

 

[HA556]

I have two 365's. One is an XL and the other started out as a factory stock FCU. It now has a MCarbo short stroke flat face trigger and MCarbo trigger spring kit (sear spring, striker spring, striker block spring). Armory Craft extended slide stop and extended ambi safety). WC X Macro grip module. 4.1 slide and fluted barrel from Shalotek. XS sights (serrated blacked out rear with tritium front. Last but not least, a direct mounted Holosun EPS.

The above for me, is about as close to the perfect EDC I'm likely to ever get. I previously owned a G48, but just didn't do it for me. Lack of a manual ambi safety and the less than optimal grip angle and texture.

Can we see pics? You know, because eye candy!

 

[spookshack]

Sure, one man's trash, is another man's eye candy. Let me see if I can dig up a pic or two.

 

[spookshack]

Here ya go……

 

[GWS]

Good we just saved you thousands of dollars. Say what you will about having to fork out $100-200 dollars after buying a Glock. Realistically you only need to change the sights and stock up on mags. But are going to spend nearly twice if not three times more if you switch to Sig. I'll put it this way if you can ONLY own one gun and you intend on customizing it then the Sig makes sense. If you don't mind having multiple guns then just buy Glock because the amount your going to invest in that Sig you could have bought 2-3 Glocks. Some of those grip modules are like $250+ to each is own but the 365 has more recoil than the 43x and the 48 and 365XL are damn near identical in shoot ability.

The only things I've bought for my 365 are a few extra magazines and a holster. There is no need to do anything else,. It runs fine right out of the box.

 

[HA556]

Here ya go……

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I like it!

 

[1775usmc]

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Full size optic on the slimline frame. I like it. We talked about the EPS and EPS Carry awhile back. I had the full size on my P365 XMacro because they share the same footprint and I wanted a bigger window and didn't mind the overhang. The slide looks super nice.

 

[peteNW503]

FYI p365 is $399 on sale and sig grip module is $40-$45. Wilson combat fancy grip module is $67.

Yeah but the ones that are actually worth it start out at $200. The Icarus and steel frames are easily $200 plus

 

[peteNW503]

I don't generally spend any time arguing with strangers on the internet, but I'm at work and it's cold out so what the heck! I stand by what I typed. The 365 has a better grip and shoots tighter groups at extended ranges then any other compact I've shot.The pistols I'm comparing to are the Glock 26, Xds, lc9, kahr cw9, s&w shield, PPk. I have not shot the hellcat yet so I cannot compare to it. I also have shot a lot of full size pistols, all the common ones and some not so common. I'll stand by my statement. The gun shoots outside its class.

Fair enough agree to disagree. Why mention it shoots like a full sized then proceed to compare it to subcompacts? I shoot the 26 better than the 365. It's all subjective but what isn't subjective is comparing a subcompact to full sized. A full sized shoots way softer then a subcompact. Even if you added a Macro grip module it still wouldn't shoot as flat as say a G17. I'm not hating merely clearly up this crazy notion that any subcompacts and can " shoot like a full sized gun" I don't know if people are trying to boost their ego or justify buying such a small gun. But two completely different leagues brother.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

I too will stand by my statement that the Sig shoots like a bigger gun.

I have direct experience (either owned or have shot and seen shot a great number of rounds through friends' guns) with 8 P365s and a few dozen Glocks of various flavors. The Sigs are definitely more accurate than the Glocks. I'd say on average, a good 1.5-inch tighter groups at 25 yards. Does this really matter in a self-defense gun? That's going to be different for different folks. To me it matters, to others it may not.

According to accelerometer tests and recoil analysis tests using tools like a Mantis-X, the Sigs 365 series recoil impulse is measurably less than the Glock 43 / 48 series of guns. So, making statements like the Glock recoils less is just not factual. Now, I do understand there is a difference between calculated recoil (a hard and consistent number) and perceived recoil. We all have different physiologies and utilize different pressures and grips on our firearms. This can and does translate into the shooter seeing and feeling more (or different) movement under recoil. Does this matter? Yes! So, shoot what works best for you, only a target and shot timer will tell you what really works. Put the guns to the test and then choose what flavor of firearm is best for you.

Regarding costs for the two platforms. The Sigs run about $50 more than Glocks if you are looking at "street prices". For that you get excellent tritium "X-Ray 3" sights. That will cost you another $100+ to retrofit a Glock. Every serious Glock owner I know (including me and my Glocks) have replacement triggers, another $100 plus. Most Sig owners I know keep the factory trigger and if anything, pull it out of the gun and do a little polishing of the moving parts.

If you are going to run the Shield magazines you need to install a Shield mag catch ($35), purchase Shield magazines and you lose the ability to use the polymer Glock or P-Mag style of magazines. It's not a bad idea to swap out the extractor and spring on a Glock as well as this is a common failure point on that platform. Again, this may or may not be an issue for any particular shooter. Both Glock and Sig have "Blue Label" programs for LEO, military etc. so that is a wash.

Swapping grip modules is easy on the Sig, if you care to do this (I did on one of mine). The high-end 'works of art' from the likes of Icarius are pricy ($250 plus) but modules from Sig, Mirzon, Wilson Combat, to name a few are much less, in the middle double digit price range. So it's almost impossible to not be able to fit the Sig to your hand. Glocks on the other hand get a lot of attention with the Dremel, to remove the "Glock Knuckle" trigger guard bump, finger grooves if it's a Gen 3 or 4, relieving the area behind the mag catch button etc.

So in the end does this really matter? Each to his own, and I say that seriously, not with any snark. If the Glock works for you shoot it. If the Sig (or CZ or S&W etc.) works for you, shoot that. What matters in the end is that when needed we can reliably and decisively hit our targets.

Cheers!

I liked mine enough that I ended up with an Icarus grip module but back then they were 100-150. Im also more accurate with a sig

 

[Wombat of Doom]

The only things I've bought for my 365 are a few extra magazines and a holster. There is no need to do anything else,. It runs fine right out of the box.

and ammo, lots and lots of ammo. I did the grip module as a complete splurge and preference

 

[spookshack]

Full size optic on the slimline frame. I like it. We talked about the EPS and EPS Carry awhile back. I had the full size on my P365 XMacro because they share the same footprint and I wanted a bigger window and didn't mind the overhang. The slide looks super nice.

Yeah, I remember that. No regrets with going with the larger window on the EPS. Slide overhang is a non issue. It works for me.

 

[monks]

Fair enough agree to disagree. Why mention it shoots like a full sized then proceed to compare it to subcompacts? I shoot the 26 better than the 365. It's all subjective but what isn't subjective is comparing a subcompact to full sized. A full sized shoots way softer then a subcompact. Even if you added a Macro grip module it still wouldn't shoot as flat as say a G17. I'm not hating merely clearly up this crazy notion that any subcompacts and can " shoot like a full sized gun" I don't know if people are trying to boost their ego or justify buying such a small gun. But two completely different leagues brother.

I have more full sized 9mm pistols than I do compacts. I was just saying that it shoots much better than any of the guns in its size that I've shot. Nothing about ego, as I don't need to stroke mine. I'm an old guy and have nothing to prove to anyone. I shoot the 365 better than the beretta 92, sig 228 or Glock 19. It's not as good as the hk vp9, shadow 2 or sig 210 (which are all great guns) but it is comparable to a lot of standard full sized guns.

 

[1775usmc]

Yeah, I remember that. No regrets with going with the larger window on the EPS. Slide overhang is a non issue. It works for me.

I got a Aimpoint ACRO P-2 on my G48. Overhang doesn't bother me either. I prefer full size optics as well. Currently carrying a G19. I used to hate the 19. Bought one multiple times just to turn around and sell it. But the Gen 5 actually feels good to me. And now I am no longer working in Washington so I can move away from the 10 round slimline G48 and start carrying my G19 or G45. I know you can buy the shield mags but they have been nothing but issues for me and I don't trust them. OEM mags only for me.

 

[Autark]

Like others have said, rent and shoot to see what fits. I carry a 365XL. Picked it up after shooting the 43x, shield and the hellcat side-by-side. Also had my P229 for comparison. Hated the hellcat. The 43x was tolerable, except for the sights. I shot the shield well, so it was a contender. The 229 shoots better in my hands, but the size and the feel of the 365 make a huge difference.

Tried mounting an RMRcc on it with a plate and didn't like it. Ended up mounting a holosun instead. Hated the idea, but it was just a better fit.