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Interesting response on a non-gun related forum

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by RVTECH, Jun 3, 2012.

  1. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Earlier today I was on another forum I frequent due to the nature of the hobby (metal detecting/relic hunting) and a thread was started with the poster asking opinions about metal detecting in a high crime area. Immediately several people responded, and some with good advice on situational awareness and several referenced carrying a gun, but many were not particularly knowledgeable about guns, CC etc, given the nature of the responses. To which I posted:

    Then came the following post from someone in England:

    To which I responded:

    To which he responded:

     
  2. james83

    james83 beaverton oregon I'am feeling fat and sassy

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    Actually you can own a shotgun or bolt action rifle in the UK, semi-auto rifles larger than .22 are illegal. To own a shotgun you must have a shotgun certificate which is issued by the police, you present a valid reason for needing the shotgun, usually claytarget shooting is a good enough reason, the gun must be locked away in a gunsafe bolted down at all times except when in use, Home defence is not a valid reason to aquire in the shotgun it is also illegal, to own a hunting bolt action rifle you must have a valid reason such as deer hunting, there is no public hunting land in the UK so most people have no way of owning a rifle so gaining a Firearm certificate is almost impossible unless you are wealthy.

    The background checks to be granted either of these certificates are very strict and you must prove you are not mentally defective, if you have ever been perscribed anti-depressants you will not be granted a certificate, The certificates can be revoked by the police for very minor reasons.

    Semi-auto rifles larger than .22have been banned since 1988

    Handguns have been banned since 1997

    Pocession of an illegal firearm in the UK is a mandatory 5 year jail sentence.

    However Criminals and gang members are armed and handguns can be purchased on the street, If you follow the law your chance of owning a gun is almost zero, If your a criminal just keep on shooting your ww2 era sten submachine gun at your rival gang members.

    The UK sucks The firearm laws suck, I know i lived there! I had a shotgun certificate for duck hunting,

    Oh and on the smaller islands jersey, guernsey the isle of white ect you CAN still own a handgun for target shooting, I have no idea why.

    My father owned handguns up until the ban in 1997, he lost alot of money when he turned those guns over to the police, The british public did nothing to fight the ban

    The whole of the UK can sink to the bottom of the ocean as far as im concerned, I will never set foot on that rotten island ever again
     
  3. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    The brits have long ago been neutered. Crime in their cities and now even in shires is skyrocketing due to an influx of wild eyed 3rd worlders who form large gangs, and yes they carry guns and knives and baseball bats.. a young man was killed recently while sitting innocently in an English pub by a mob armed with bats and knives, his father is in critical condition after trying to shield his son from the stabs

    As to owning a shotgun there, yes after you jump thru all the hoops and then it cannot have more than a 2 shot tube, and it is absolutely verboten to actually use it for self defense
     
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  4. keystir

    keystir Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    He didn't get into any more detail about what was so "disturbing and incredible" about the thread? Was he referring to concealed carry, using a metal detector in high crime areas, or just silly Americans and their crazy ideas?

    By the way, do you ever actually find anything cool or valuable with a metal detector?
     
  5. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    I was going to ask about this but I would have been going off topic or hijacking the thread but I think all the responses to even considering carrying was what caused his 'disturbance'
    With any luck you have not watched the 'American Diggers' show. If you have please understand this show is faked and completely not representative of the average metal detector enthusiast. Now to answer you question, yes. Have I ever found anything particularly valuable? Sort of - I found a WW1 religious medal from Germany I sold. Cool finds - yes. A few years ago at a Homestead site I used to hunt often I found many day - to - day items most would never think about but someone use to use on a daily basis. I found a hand forged plate handle to a kitchen wood cook stove at one site. This was handled by the wife most likely daily. I also found a forged lemon press - rusted and it will not close but many who have seen this admitted they have never seen a lemon press this old. I don't even count the coins and other things I find anymore.
     
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    Abiqua Oregon Active Member

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    knife sale.jpg

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    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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  8. Abiqua

    Abiqua Oregon Active Member

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    That's how far they've fallen. Their citizens cannot be trusted with cutlery.
     
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  9. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    At 30 seconds:
    [video=youtube;RSUGp9Yz1sk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSUGp9Yz1sk[/video]

    Swords not necessary, and Parliament apparently believes it! :D
     
  10. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    It's nothing new.. King James banned my clan (MacGregor) and we were forbidden to have anything bladed but a tiny knife to cut our meat. We promptly disbeyed
     
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  11. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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  12. Mookie

    Mookie Eastern Washington Active Member

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    Why a spoon, cousin? Why not an axe?
    Because it's DULL, you twit. It'll hurt more.