Interesting and funny encounter today

[MannyGlocks]

In addition, my wish to be a good 2A ambassador flies out the window if the 'questioner' of my right to OC, assumes he has some sort of self-assumed authority to question me about...anything.

WTH?

I cannot imagine ever sticking my nose into some strangers peaceful going about their business doing...whatever.

That it's (in this case) OC-ing, is neither here nor there.

The 'Arrogance' of busy-body d-bags is mind boggling...!

Be polite...be respectful to them...when they're not to me...nope, fk them!

 

[Lazyfaire]

You know, a lot of people anymore just have never been around guns, or had one in the house growing up. So when they see someone carrying they freak out. They see a gun and expect it to just go off on its own. Not like most BGs are using a holster but they know no different. They are Sheeple. I ask them if they have ever voted for a politician who says we should go into gang areas and clean out the guns.........(their)blank stares= No I think if we pass a few laws that they stop on their own....(my) blank stare

 

[ilikegunspdx]

You know, a lot of people anymore just have never been around guns, or had one in the house growing up. So when they see someone carrying they freak out. They see a gun and expect it to just go off on its own. Not like most BGs are using a holster but they know no different. They are Sheeple. I ask them if they have ever voted for a politician who says we should go into gang areas and clean out the guns.........(their)blank stares= No I think if we pass a few laws that they stop on their own....(my) blank stare

Yep media has told them any gun in dangerous. For them any gun in the house means extreme danger even locked in the safe. They never grew up with or have any knowledge of safe gun handling.

 

[Yarome]

Maybe what needs to be done is to take a page out of the woke handbook. Push for and organize an official "American pride month" in July (to coincide with independence day). I'm sure we can come up with a flag, wear buttons, organize massive tailgate parties (vs. parades0... and... every firearm owner is encouraged to OC for the month.

"Normalize" firearm ownership and provide opportunities for folks to see.. for IE... their good neighbors, family members, professionals and every day folks they have come to know and love/respect own firearms. That'll open up the dialogue!!

Taking it a step further. If only 5% of the population are LGABCDEFG+ and they can demand that they are represented/advertised in every single commercial, advertisement, TV program, movie, etc.... then why can't those that represent nearly 50% of the population (gun owners) demand that every commercial, advertisement, TV program, movie, etc depict a character that OC's??

Institute children's story book times across the country. We could get real wild with it.. IE., Everyone has to wear modest semi profession attire.
They could wear the same nationwide buttons.

Button ideas: "I'm an independent and responsible US citizen. You can be too!". "I speak English and you can too. Ask me how!". "Americans bleed red, not blue!". "I vote American!". "Guns are tools. Ask me about mine!". "Salute the Flag today!". "FJB!" (Had to throw that one in there...."

Even further... and I know this one is REALLY "out there", but we could even fight and demand that... American history be taught as part of the public school curriculum!

 

[Andy54Hawken]

American history be taught as part of the public school curriculum!

This is taught in my school ( Yes it is a public school ) ...I even help teach segments of it.
Andy

 

[Mark W.]

I rarely carry. Work has asked me not to (I drive Dump truck) its an insurance thing and I feel no real need. I do carry concealed when we (the wife and I) go into any area I am possibly going need something. As to open carry the only time I open carry is when I am afield and there is little to no civilization around. Like when we go out on a jeep trip in the woods etc. Then I carry something on my hip most commonly my Star Model B that eats everything 9mm like Wheaties before the big game.

 

[Yarome]

This is taught in my school ( Yes it is a public school ) ...I even help teach segments of it.
Andy

It's actually required in all 50 states. I'm aware. I was being a bit satirical/tongue-in-cheek... that I thought was evident by the entire post. My bad.

In part though... recognizing the direction our school system is taking in some parts of the country where some districts are selective and lending their own "slant" into what falls under "American history". IE., Barely brushing over things like the BOR, constitution, and how the country was formed in favor of more time spent on the social engineering aspects to promote a growing narrative.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

It's actually required in all 50 states. I'm aware. I was being a bit satirical/tongue-in-cheek... that I thought was evident by the entire post. My bad.

In part though... recognizing the direction our school system is taking in some parts of the country where some districts are selective and lending their own "slant" into what falls under "American history". IE., Barely brushing over things like the BOR, constitution, and how the country was formed in favor of more time spent on the social engineering aspects to promote a growing narrative.

No worries...
Just get tired of all the 'anti-public school" comments that I see on the forum.
Most of which ain't true...at least for my school and district.
Andy

 

[ilikegunspdx]

No worries...
Just get tired of all the 'anti-public school" comments that I see on the forum.
Most of which ain't true...at least for my school and district.
Andy

You got the good school! Kind of like when I was a kid. My 6th grade teacher was a die hard mountain man and wore his buckskin stuff to school sometimes. I wont mention the stuff I've seen in Portland public schools cuz it will likely make you puke but as you might guess it's the complete opposite. We spend lots of times undoing the one sided brainwashing they do to teach our kid to look at both sides of things and issues to search for the truth and decide for herself. It takes considerable effort to raise an independent thinker in this mess of a school system (Portland public schools I mean).

 

[Andy54Hawken]

You got the good school! Kind of like when I was a kid. My 6th grade teacher was a die hard mountain man and wore his buckskin stuff to school sometimes. I wont mention the stuff I've seen in Portland public schools cuz it will likely make you puke but as you might guess it's the complete opposite. We spend lots of times undoing the one sided brainwashing they do to teach our kid to look at both sides of things and issues to search for the truth and decide for herself. It takes considerable effort to raise an independent thinker in this mess of a school system.

I have no doubts about the "mess of a school system."
Lots of changes need to happen for sure.

I do get tired of reading all the anti-public school posts and threads however.
Many of those use broad blanket , one size fits none statements....Trashing my chosen profession.

And yes I do know that there is a reason for the stereotype...and that there are problems within the public school system.
Makes reading and enjoying the forum not happen very often....Maybe I ought to toss out some broad blanket , one size fits none statements about gun owners....Kidding here....that won't solve a damn thing....and those statements will be about as true and meaningful as the anti-public school statements.
Andy

 

[ilikegunspdx]

I have no doubts about the "mess of a school system."
Lots of changes need to happen for sure.

I do get tired of reading all the anti-public school posts and threads however.
Many of those use broad blanket , one size fits none statements....Trashing my chosen profession.

And yes I do know that there is a reason for the stereotype...and that there are problems within the public school system.
Makes reading and enjoying the forum not happen very often....Maybe I ought to toss out some broad blanket , one size fits none statements about gun owners....Kidding here....that won't solve a damn thing....and those statements will be about as true and meaningful as the anti-public school statements.
Andy

Sorry I meant to say Portland public school system in my post above (I edited it to show that). I didn't mean to say a blanket statement about all public schools. I think in rural areas things are probably still good and non left coast public schools but that's only a guess as I don't know.

 

[DunRanull]

This is taught in my school ( Yes it is a public school ) ...I even help teach segments of it.
Andy

Hey Andy- I dunno what or how US history is taught at your school, but in our town the school seems to be teaching a wok(ish) kind of history that tends to put Americans and US history in a negative light. I went around with them when my kids were in school and a teacher was "encouraging" the kids to watch the Clooney film "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou" by way of explaining the Great Depression of the 1930's. While entertaining, it certainly wasn't teaching much useful about the 1930's, in my view.
Generally speaking, while there is "critical race theory", there is it seems "Critical History theory". While there is much to be concerned or even ashamed of parts of our history and race relations, it is the "critical "theory" part that gets me..
Actually teaching critical THINKING would be a good idea, seems to me.

 

[Yarome]

I have no doubts about the "mess of a school system."
Lots of changes need to happen for sure.

I do get tired of reading all the anti-public school posts and threads however.
Many of those use broad blanket , one size fits none statements....Trashing my chosen profession.

And yes I do know that there is a reason for the stereotype...and that there are problems within the public school system.
Makes reading and enjoying the forum not happen very often....Maybe I ought to toss out some broad blanket , one size fits none statements about gun owners....Kidding here....that won't solve a damn thing....and those statements will be about as true and meaningful as the anti-public school statements.
Andy

I understand the sensitivity for someone in that chosen profession, and some school districts are better than others, but I think it's also imperative to realize what a sensitive discussion it is for parents and grandparents that have young impressionable children/grandchildren in terms of what they are being exposed to in... granted... "some" schools and school districts. I would say... very likely even more sensitive than an educators since it directly impacts the development of their children/grandchildren that will affect them throughout their lives.

While some of the more worrisome issues may not exist in "all" schools... some troublesome issues still do... and the fear is great that many of the more worrisome changes will eventually find their way into even the "best" of school district. That IS the ultimate goal of those that are pushing those agendas, after all. Much like WA states passage of the ABCDEFG+ history mandate.

Not having the discussion isn't an option if positive change is to occur... you would agree(?) [Rhetorical]

It's not an appropriate discussion on a firearm forum though. Of that I agree.

There are always broad generalized attacks against firearm owners. Nothin new there. We have to acknowledge that there may be a small degree of truth from an outside looking in perspective and that there are a large number of firearm owners that don't represent the community as a whole well. We can choose not to take it personally though and filter out what doesn't apply to "us". That's just the nature of any issue and it's hardly common to have issue oriented discussions framed in context of who within that "whole" is included and who is excluded.

"That doesn't apply to me or mine so I am offended and your issues are largely invalid"... doesn't really fly in the grand scheme.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

@Yarome

My point :
It is when that word "some" is missing from the discussion that is bothersome to me.
Without the word 'some" or "many" etc...the meaning is that All schools or educators do as such...
Which ain't true

"That doesn't apply to me or mine so I am offended and your issues are largely invalid"... doesn't really fly in the grand scheme.

As for this....that is not what I meant or have ever said.

Not having the discussion isn't an option if positive change is to occur... you would agree(?) [Rhetorical]

I do agree...however the discussion needs to be also pushed / moved / conducted in a positive way....
As in without painting all schools / educators with the same broad brush strokes.

It's not an appropriate discussion on a firearm forum though. Of that I agree.

Any further comments or the like will not be answered.....And as a reminder to all...
Please post within forum rules.
Andy

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Hey Andy- I dunno what or how US history is taught at your school,

This is important.
As I have said....
Not every public school or educator....fits the negative stereotype.
I am just tired of the overly broad negative , one size fits none statements made against educators and the public school system.

Yes I know that there is a reason for the negative stereotype ..
And yes I am aware of the many issues / problems with the education system.

In any event...
I am done here...and won't discuss this further.
Andy

 

[Yarome]

My point :
It is when that word "some" is missing from the discussion that is bothersome to me.
Without the word 'some" or "many" etc...the meaning is that All schools or educators do as such...
Which ain't true

@Andy54Hawken I see your point.
I guess with me, personally, discussions on broad subject matter I tend to filter under the assumption that generalizations are being used and that "some/most" is implied. Believing that absolutes are exceedingly rare and exceptions are a given.

Maybe that's just a holdover from my primary language though where context and mutual assumptions play a much larger role than in English(?)

No worries. I won't entertain any further comment on the subject either.

 

[Lazyfaire]

Nothing that is important should ever be sent via text. It loses its context and is often (usually) misconstrued. It does not matter what the subject is. Plus everyone is entitled to their own opinion, even if it is incorrect.

We've all seen 'arguments' on this site that go on and on, and are seemingly silly and yet someone seems to have been so 'offended' that they cannot quit making their point. We can all learn by being able to just step back and move on. Which I'm gonna do right now.

Later

 

[P7M13]

 

[Local Loader]

Well, this topic went off the rails a bit it seems. So let's get back on and see what stories people have about interesting encounters they had involving firearms.

 

[oremike]

My answer would be " do you mean why am I displaying my right to keep and bear arms publicly? Because I can, and have the right by the Constitution to do so.