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I-594 would make First Shots a crime.

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by twoclones, Jul 22, 2014.

  1. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    FIRST SHOTS
    Each year I volunteer my time as a Range Safety Officer and Handgun Instructor during the First Shots event at Rattlesnake Mountain Shooting Facility near Benton City, WA. Annually, about 100 new shooters (mostly women) receive classroom training and practical experience in gun safety, function, technique, and live fire. For many of them, it's their first experience with a handgun.

    Washington State Initiative 594 would make this gun safety training illegal because these new shooters use firearms provided by the instructors. :(

    http://www.nssf.org/FirsTshOTs/
     
  2. Morpheus

    Morpheus Columbia Gorge Anyway, back on the farm.

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    Seriously? Does it ban any providing of firearms to people for temporary use or something?

    Please pardon that I'm from Oregon, so haven't been following that bill much.
     
  3. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Not that I was on the fence but if I were, this would have punted me off it.:mad:
     
  4. ak56

    ak56 Carnation, Wa Active Member

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    No, it would be covered by the following exemption.
     
  5. MarkAd

    MarkAd Port Orchard Well-Known Member

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    594 is a mess, the "exceptions" are fluff. We don not need it. OIt is a further incrusion of your rights.
    Vote NO on 594
    Vote NO on 594
     
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  6. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    You are assuming First Shots (or other training) takes place at at an established shooting range authorized by the governing body of the jurisdiction in which such range is located.

    Such a range has not been defined and may not ever exist.
     
  7. ak56

    ak56 Carnation, Wa Active Member

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    Your first post mentioned the Rattlesnake Mountain Shooting Facility.

    From the Tri-Cities Shooting Association website:
    From this I would strongly suspect that it qualifies as an "established shooting range authorized by the governing body of the jurisdiction in which such range is located".
     
  8. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    Then where does it take place, your back yard??
     
  9. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    They take place at many ranges. Are we trying to protect firearms safety training at Rattlesnake or anywhere in Washington it may happen?
     
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  10. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    Then you are covered by exemption .
     
  11. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    Suspicion is not sufficient cause for me to risk my Civil Rights.
     
  12. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone reading this noted that First Shots is a nation wide program and NOT an event unique to Rattlesnake?
     
  13. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    It's a bad law regardless of exemptions.

    Give everyone guns n ammo and fine them for not carrying them at all times.
     
  14. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    This part of I-594 is designed to herd gun owners into a government regulated corral.
     
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  15. timac

    timac Loading Magazines! Well-Known Member

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    (4) This section does not apply to:
    (f) The temporary transfer of a firearm
    (ii) if the temporary transfer occurs, and the firearm is kept at all times, at an established shooting range authorized by the governing body of the jurisdiction in which such range is located;


    Since the guns for First Shot are not kept at all times at the range you would be in violation. A judge will decide how to interpret the law.
     
  16. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    Kept at all time while during the temporary transfer
     
  17. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    It all still hinges on whether or not the government recognizes the range where the transfer takes place. That is a very bad requirement.
     
  18. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    That's the way I read it too....it sounds as if you own a store and rent out guns to be used at your range then you're fine....but if you go around and let people use your guns at a range and you are not present for the training then you're screwed.
     
  19. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

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    Same goes for a private range. Six guys all shoot the same gun, at least 5 felonies are committed.
     
  20. timac

    timac Loading Magazines! Well-Known Member

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    One judge will interpret the law their way and another theirs. Comrade.
     
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