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Bought the only box I could find of +P at the gun show and tested it in my Kahr CM9 using wet phone books.
Some said since Hornday designed these for LEO using long barrels they wouldn't expand out of compact 3" barrels... they expanded fine.
I think I will be swapping over to these as my defense round of choice. I always liked the flextip concept, but I never cared for the lack of penetration from the critical defense line.
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