Holster help, specific angle inquiry?

[Member 34319]

I've come to appreciate a leather OWB pancake and it's simplicity. It works. Works well.

I can't help but want to try a steeper cant. Get the frame of the gun more vertical vs the slide.

Help me find something?

Pictures of how it sits now vs what I want to try.

Thanks!

Reno

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[Member 53328]

What kind of pistol? A SOB holster will probably have a cant closer to that. The more horizontal the frame gets the less bending the material will do. Just keep that in mind. It may not be super comfortable.

 

[Member 34319]

Pistol is a Diamondback DB9

 

[Member 53328]

Pistol is a Diamondback DB9

Doesn't look like there are many options.... maybe a custom job is going to be the best way to go.

 

[titsonritz]

You're talking about getting into an SOB style.
https://www.desantisholster.com/s-o-b-small-of-back-sob/
You've been around long enough to know my view on that mode of carry so I won't go there. Keep in mind the more you cant and the further you reach, the more your shoulder will dip and the more telegraphic you will be upon presentation. IMO a covert draw is more relative to CCW vs a speed draw, you really get neither where you are going. YMMV.

 

[Member 34319]

I wasn't going to utter SOB. Was just curious if there was something else to try. Thanks for the input.

 

[Member 53328]

I wasn't going to utter SOB. Was just curious if there was something else to try. Thanks for the input.

Have you ever tried carrying appendix? Unless you're strictly trying to stay OWB.

 

[titsonritz]

The steepest cant I tried is 25* from a Secret City Weaponeers K-25 Holster for a G19. I would guess that OWB you have pictured is 15*. The pics you show are right in line with that SOB holster I linked just at the 5 o'clock position. I will admit that K-25 is super comfortable and concealable but get into that shoulder dip thing I was talking about. Given that angle it also makes me think of the Mitch Rosen ARG.

 

[Member 34319]

Have you ever tried carrying appendix? Unless you're strictly trying to stay OWB.

Yes.

I don't have any belly to hide anything in the front. My shirts tend to sit pretty tightly against my entire front end.

The backside from my butt to lower back is the best place to put something on my body. It's about the only place a shirt hangs and leaves a gap, as I pictured. Since I have a decently athletic butt the curvature isn't like a round butt, so I've got very little gap at 3-330. Some, but not much at 4. I'm too narrow for anything at 2-4.

None of this is a problem in the winter, summers. I were shorts and a basic cotton T.

My torso isn't that long and I'm not that big in the chest. So large shirts just look horrible on my frame. Most I've tried just look like I'm wearing a dress. If there were a size between medium and large, that would possibly solve some issues.

First world problems...

 

[titsonritz]

AIWB is your answer IMO.

 

[Member 53328]

Yes.

I don't have any belly to hide anything in the front. My shirts tend to sit pretty tightly against my entire front end.

The backside from my butt to lower back is the best place to put something on my body. It's about the only place a shirt hangs and leaves a gap, as I pictured. Since I have a decently athletic butt the curvature isn't like a round butt, so I've got very little gap at 3-330. Some, but not much at 4. I'm too narrow for anything at 2-4.

None of this is a problem in the winter, summers. I were shorts and a basic cotton T.

My torso isn't that long and I'm not that big in the chest. So large shirts just look horrible on my frame. Most I've tried just look like I'm wearing a dress. If there were a size between medium and large, that would possibly solve some issues.

First world problems...

Haha. Fair enough. Sounds like it's time to start working out. Or drink a lot of beer and get that gut lol. I only asked cause I have found appendix is the most comfortable way for me to carry and is super easy to conceal. I wear fitted shirts but they aren't too tight to my body. I carry a pistol, tourniquet and knife on the front of my body everyday. It took me a long time to figure out a set up that worked for me.

 

[spookshack]

@Reno Your body type just screams "Fanny pack". You're a "basic" dude, just embrace it!

 

[Member 34319]

Haha. Fair enough. Sounds like it's time to start working out. Or drink a lot of beer and get that gut lol. I only asked cause I have found appendix is the most comfortable way for me to carry and is super easy to conceal. I wear fitted shirts but they aren't too tight to my body. I carry a pistol, tourniquet and knife on the front of my body everyday. It took me a long time to figure out a set up that worked for me.

Does running 2-4 miles a day count. I lift weights, but not exactly to gain weight.

 

[Member 34319]

@Reno Your body type just screams "Fanny pack". You're a "basic" dude, just embrace it!

To be completely honest, that might work. Grow my hair out too!

The tatto on my leg might be a dead give away though.

 

[Member 34319]

The steepest cant I tried is 25* from a Secret City Weaponeers K-25 Holster for a G19. I would guess that OWB you have pictured is 15*. The pics you show are right in line with that SOB holster I linked just at the 5 o'clock position. I will admit that K-25 is super comfortable and concealable but get into that shoulder dip thing I was talking about. Given that angle it also makes me think of the Mitch Rosen ARG.

Do they have a website? I searched it but only forum posts came up?

 

[po18guy]

Have you ever tried carrying appendix? Unless you're strictly trying to stay OWB.

This is what I'm thinking with an IWB rig. Just bought a WholeGuns Kydex IWB and it is rake adjustable, but will not go muzzle forward for an appendix carry.

 

[edzz]

Cross draw about 10 - 11 o'clock IWB.

And for the love of... get some sun before the vampires start teasing you for being soo pale.

 

[Mikeyg]

Maybe try a button up short sleeve. They tend to be a little looser around the waist

 

[L84Cabo]

Ask and ye shall receive!

There's a guy I follow on social media...he goes by the moniker "Salty Dad." He's a former cop and a father and fairly salty. Hence the name.

Anyway, he wanted what I think you are describing and got the folks at Ronin Leather to build him one. And they turned it into a regular model that they sell...and named it after him. Reports are that Ronin's quality is excellent but I don't have any firsthand experience. There also aren't a ton of picture but if you email them, maybe they've got more. Good luck!

Ronin Leather Holsters LLC - SD Special

 

[po18guy]

What I really want is a chest holster, like Tom Campbell, former S&W engineer, used in IPSC shooting. Would be great when I'm riding MTB.