National HAVE LEGALLY OWNED AUTOMATIC WEAPONS BEEN USED IN CRIME?

[bbbass]

Didn't he hire cops to do that?

"Four unknown assailants who were dressed like police officers"

 

[The Heretic]

I believe the focus of the article was on use of full auto weapons used after the NFA was enacted. It did talk about the history before the NFA.

 

[bbbass]

Resistance is futile.

True dat:

 

[bbbass]

I believe the focus of the article was on use of full auto weapons used after the NFA was enacted. It did talk about the history before the NFA.

I only read headlines and posts...

 

[Stomper]

True dat:

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WHOA... left high beam!

 

[bbbass]

WHOA... left high beam!

Right.

No, seriously... right beam!!

 

[Stomper]

Right.

No, seriously... right beam!!

Your right.... not hers.

 

[bbbass]

Your right.... not hers.

I think your eyes are crossed. Don't stare so hard.

Unless you meant the "raised" er uh...

 

[wired]

I'm surprised the NFA hasnt come up more often as a means of restricting "assault rifles" . I know somebody brought it up on the D side the last debate cycle but its never gained traction. I know they just want them to disappear entirely but an organized push to put everything in the NFA hasnt ever really materialized. Oddly enough opening up the NFA to everything might actually speed the process up as it would get fully funded and manned and probably streamined. .

 

[CountryGent]

I'm surprised the NFA hasnt come up more often as a means of restricting "assault rifles" . I know somebody brought it up on the D side the last debate cycle but its never gained traction. I know they just want them to disappear entirely but an organized push to put everything in the NFA hasnt ever really materialized. Oddly enough opening up the NFA to everything might actually speed the process up as it would get fully funded and manned and probably streamined. .

Adding existing "assault weapons" to the NFA is on Biden's official campaign site.

 

[wired]

Adding existing "assault weapons" to the NFA is on Biden's official campaign site.

I could see a couple of things happen from that not that it would ever make it through congress even a democratic congress.

1. Total non compliance
2. Speeding the whole process up after a while.
3. More non compliance
4. reduction of fees

 

[cookie]

With all the drunk and drugged driving we need to ban motor vehicles if it only saves one life. [Sarcasm maybe]

 

[The Resister]

Yes.

Once by a Police Officer ( !!?)

9/15/1988
Type: MAC-11 .380ACP submachinegun
Registered: Yes
Lawfully possessed:Yes
Circumstances: Dayton, Ohio police department, Patrolman Roger Waller, then 32, used his fully automatic MAC-11 .380 caliber smg to kill a police informant, 52-year-old Lawrence Hileman.


....and another time.......by a Police Officer....


4/2002
Type: MP5 submachinegun
Registered: Yes
Lawfully possessed: Yes
Circumstances: Police officer Edward Lutes went on a rampage with a police-issue MP5, killing 5 neighbors (in two separate homes), before killing himself with a handgun.
Fatalities (excluding perpetrator): 5 (Not a mass shooting as the victims were specifically targeted in their homes)

Machineguns Used In Crimes, Post-NFA | The Zelman Partisans

I was lobbying against the bill that Reagan signed making it illegal for civilians to have access to fully automatic weapons. Actually the bill prohibited civilian ownership of any fully automatic weapon made after some date in 1986 (IIRC).

At the time I recall calling EVERY U.S. Congressman and Senator, traveling to meet a number of them and offering to support the bill if they could show me a single case of a legally owned fully auto being used in a crime. The case cited happened after Reagan signed that bill so it appears to me, anti-gun forces are always looking for a problem to solve.

 

[wired]

I was lobbying against the bill that Reagan signed making it illegal for civilians to have access to fully automatic weapons. Actually the bill prohibited civilian ownership of any fully automatic weapon made after some date in 1986 (IIRC).

At the time I recall calling EVERY U.S. Congressman and Senator, traveling to meet a number of them and offering to support the bill if they could show me a single case of a legally owned fully auto being used in a crime. The case cited happened after Reagan signed that bill so it appears to me, anti-gun forces are always looking for a problem to solve.

The '86 FOPA wasnt a bad bill in and of itself. I remember when it passed and it was 98% a good thing. It was the last minute addition of the Hughes Amendment that turned it into a stinking pile of garbage? The safe passage and ammo sales sections especially were beneficial. Its why we can have online ammo sales now. How exactly were you lobbying on the Hughes amendment when it was literally added to the Firearms Owner Protection Act the same day as the vote?

 

[gmerkt]

I'm surprised the NFA hasnt come up more often as a means of restricting "assault rifles" .

Yes, Biden is using the "success" of the 1934 NFA to go for restricting semi-auto so-called assault rifles in a similar way. Which I guess if such a move came about, would mean there would be a $200 tax on selling and transferring an AR15.

 

[The Resister]

The '86 FOPA wasnt a bad bill in and of itself. I remember when it passed and it was 98% a good thing. It was the last minute addition of the Hughes Amendment that turned it into a stinking pile of garbage? The safe passage and ammo sales sections especially were beneficial. Its why we can have online ammo sales now. How exactly were you lobbying on the Hughes amendment when it was literally added to the Firearms Owner Protection Act the same day as the vote?

Lobbyists are aware of the B.S. tricks that the Dems are about to pull. Everybody knows the score. The whole proposal by Hughes was known to everybody on Capitol Hill BEFORE it was announced. I made damn sure of it.