Actually, I was saying that the chief might redistribute tribal possession in an equitable manner, and that the members of the tribe might see this as wise and just.
Primates don't have concepts like "this stick is mine, and even if I put it down and walk away it remains mine". That is a very late development in human understanding - not a base instinct or natural right.
Even birds have that instinct; birds such as ravens/crows, have been shown to trade shiny objects for food. Dogs have the instinct of personal ownership with their toys.
thats a fair point, no doubt historically... some... societies operated on a socialist foundations, and their community accepted that. That doesnt mean that other societies did not and understood individual rights. The balance between the two is still a struggle today. AFAIK the US is the only country founded on the ideology of individual liberties.
Might, but rarely equitable.
That sounds more communist or marxist, I dont know of any society that operated on those principles that does not collapse. Historically thats simply survival of the fittest, some tribes made it some didnt.
And even tribal ownership involved bartering between tribes. For thousands of years (and probably more) archeological evidence shows trading happening between tribes in the Americas, and there is just as much or more reason to assert that at least part or mostly all of this trading happened on an individual level. N. American tribes had "wampum", S. Pacific island clans had currency too. Currency, often in the possession of individuals, has been around for millennia.
Saying pooled resources is Marxist is just trying to muddy a discussion of philosophy with politics. Christ was a "communist" if you want to go there.
Philosophies are natural or they wouldn't exist. I agree its not a simple subject or explanation, but philosophies are an integral part of how the human species work together.
Humans have had human nature since their inception, and that has never ceased. Right or wrong, beneficial or harmful, it is all human nature and is always there is all of our actions and thought processes. Ignore it at your peril.
EXCUSE ME!! Are you actually suggesting that reincarnation is a falsehood? Don't put your shortcoming onto others just because you aren't zen enough to be in touch with your own previous lives!
How about changing a temporary tag to read 10 days in the future, class c felony forgery in Oregon, no guns for the rest of his life??? Does that make any damn sense? He is a " "convicted felon" for the rest of his life, no rentals, crappy jobs, no guns for the next 40 years??
You have to pay if you're going to play. That said.... just like many states... a person in Oregon can have their felony conviction expunged and 2A right restored. It's neither complicated nor all that expensive, but a person does have to keep their nose clean for a period of time, successfully complete all provisions of their conviction (including probation and any resistution payments or other court ordered "debt to society") and not been convicted of a particularly serious felony.
The point remains; there are felonies where the removal of your right to self-defense just purely, logically, wholly do not make sense. Instead of painting every crime with a broad brush, removal of your rights should be limited to those few crimes (e.g., violent crimes) where it makes sense to do so. More than that is just another way that the gun grabbers are disarming the populace, infringing on our rights and putting us more under their control.You have to pay if you're going to play. That said.... just like many states... a person in Oregon can have their felony conviction expunged and 2A right restored. It's neither complicated nor all that expensive, but a person does have to keep their nose clean for a period of time, successfully complete all provisions of their conviction (including probation and any resistution payments or other court ordered "debt to society") and not been convicted of a particularly serious felony.
It's like it never happened... so I really don't get all the "but all I did was", "it was white collar", "I'm no threat", etc etc.
If all that's true. I say, stop whining, jump through the hoops, get your record cleaned and your 2A rights back. If its not important enough for them to bother to do that for themselves, that's on them and I have no sympathy.
I had a family member pull a felony for criminal mischief (over $750 damages of another persons property). He was drunk, and dumb, but they nailed him. He went through the process. You can petition yourself but he went through a service. Paid something like $700 all in, all done electronically, never had to appear in court or speak to a judge... just a paperwork process and the service did everything for him. Felony's gone and buys firearms regularly.
Misdemeanor and felony crimes are two different things. I'm not understanding what a Class C Misdemeanor Felony charge is….it's either a class C Misdemeanor or class C Felony.
I don't completly disagree, but I believe it's better decided on the back end of a conviction... on a case-by-case basis for those that seek that relief rather than as a blanket catch-all policy on the front end without any individual case consideration.
I think much of that is true. Where I see the benefit though is that a repeat offender with a firearm.. if caught... is going to compound any charge they get (felony or not) with an additional felony charge that will greater increase their next sentencing.
uh no?
