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El Paso - Cop shoots Handcuffed man

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by RicInOR, Jun 19, 2014.

  1. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  2. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Hang 'em.
     
  3. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Life is but a struggle. I think Darwin said that.
     
  4. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    Do I here a response from a GOOD COPPER . . . So called??

    Sheldon
     
  5. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    If they put ankle bracelets on him , where was he going to go??

    Two LEO's could not contain him , they better lay off the donuts and him the gym more.
     
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  6. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Seriously WTF.
    Paid desk duty and this street pirate is back on the streets in a week.

    Boy, I sure wish I had LEO union lawyers.. I could get away with anything.
    :confused:
     
  7. Hrethgir

    Hrethgir Beaverton, OR Active Member

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    Hopefully this cop and the other cop who slit a restrained dogs throat end up swinging from the same tree.
     
  8. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    This was the same officer that rose to fame because he bought a homeless guy some boots. Doesn't sound like a cold blooded killer.
    Obviously not a good or correct outcome. But i've always sided with common senses. You fight the cops and your going to lose.

    People need to learn about authority. Look at dirtbag kids these days
     
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  9. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    It almost looked like the other officer hit his gun or maybe it was just bad trigger control. Either way doesn't make sense why he unholstered the weapon to begin with. Or why they couldn't call for others to help tie up his feet.

    Either way that guy was a idiot for fight them anyways
     
  10. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Uh yeah.

    Did any of the "hang em" guys actually read the article?

    It was an accident.
     
  11. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    They should be held to a higher standard.. And they've consistently show shown that they aren't.

    Be it the consequences of their actions (or lack there of) and their training.

    Better trigger discipline?!
    You and I would be in jail within the hour! Its unacceptable.
     
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  12. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Yeah they handle firearms daily. And use them more often in stressful situation not just at the bench. It's a different dynamic.

    They should actually be held to the same standard, but thats not the case.
    Cops are just regular people. Like you and me with an impossible job. They often have less training than some of us.
     
  13. Rix

    Rix Tacoma Active Member

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    It sure did look like it.
    I wasn't there. I can't say for sure.
     
  14. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Negligence is the word you are looking for
     
  15. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Maybe.

    But I doubt it was intentional.

    The events were not quite what the OP posted.
     
  16. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The video show someone being dragged out side - yes?
    The video shows a struggle, yes?
    2 LEO and 1 handcuffed person, yes?
    At just past 1 min, both LEO seem to loose control - run back - one almost out of screen, one takes a minute and pulls a firearm.
    Shows the hand cuffed person being shot, yes? about 1:08 on video.

    the story says he died from being shot.

    So @The Heretic what is not accurate about that?
     
  17. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    You left out the part about it being an accident
     
  18. Hrethgir

    Hrethgir Beaverton, OR Active Member

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    If he didn't have his gun pointed at the guy with his finger on the trigger, it wouldn't have happened.

    Rule 1: Never put your finger on the trigger unless you are ready to shoot.
    Rule 2: Don't point the gun at anything you aren't willing to kill or destroy.
     
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  19. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    If you were drawing on an ex-body-builder who was high on bath salts, who was resistant to your taser, plus all the other facts in the article, would you be covering him with your finger off the trigger?

    Obviously he was ready to shoot if necessary, but didn't intend to shoot - yet.
     
  20. Hrethgir

    Hrethgir Beaverton, OR Active Member

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    They should have shackled him then or had more people there to handle him. The fact is they were not properly prepared to deal with someone they KNEW was a problem, and he was killed by a negligent discharge.