DOJ eliminating BATF?

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  1. Bigfoot

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    I'll believe it when I see it but here it is.

    Bombshell: DOJ Considering Elimination of ATF - Katie Pavlich - Townhall Conservative

     
  2. Redcap

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  3. plasticfood

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    Imagine losing your job, of getting paid to monitor the goings on at NWFA.
     
  4. swoop

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    That's great! Now if we can clean up the DOJ, streamline the EPA, and DOE, ect. ect...who knows, this country may still have a chance at survival.
     
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  6. Jamie6.5

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    They'll just replace it with something worse,...
    And put janet napolitano and eric holder in charge of it.
     
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  7. sailorman2010

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    I agree Jamie6.5, They will just change the name to something else. They may "let go" some of the bad crop of agents they have, but it will be the same old agency with a new name.

    Any name suggestions? Booze, Butts and Guns-sound good?
     
  8. Jamie6.5

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    Will they be the "bad crop?"

    Or will they just be the ones that Andrew Traver doesn't like,...

    I'll bet Andrew Traver will be the decider of who stays and who goes.
    More anti-gun Chicago politics is on the way!
     
  9. civilian75

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    Somehow the news do not make me jump with joy. Leave it to the Feds and politicians to screw this up, too.
     
  10. One-Eyed Ross

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    Doesn't ATF belong to the Dept of Revenue? Hmm...

    I think it's just the Federal budget thing of offering early retirement for people to trim the budget. Happens in every dept this time every year.
     
  11. Private R Wiggum

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    hmm... seems like shuffling from one 3 -lettered agency to another 3-lettered agency.

    thanks for the scoop Bigfoot!
     
  12. locobob

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    1. Simplify/Streamline the Regs.
    2. Let the FBI handle firearms and explosives.
    3. Alcohol and tobacco can go to FDA / DEA
    Result = one less bureaucracy.
     
  13. Wood Worker

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    I would think that another alphabet soup agency would pick up those who were fired and the saga would continue.
    Only the government would try to say how they erased the agency to save the tax payers money, etc.
    Sound familiar?
     
  14. 22many

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    As the old saying goes, careful what you wish for.......
     
  15. Atroxus

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    I'll believe it when I see it. But even if it does happen just disbanding the ATF will only mean the same laws will be enforced by a different agency. Same dog, different leash.
     
  16. Riot

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    Rumor...the feds need their Jack Booted thugs to enforce their dirty work on controlling guns. And even if they did disband the ATF, you don't think there will be some new faction from the Department of Homeland Security to go after us "right-wing extremist, gun-totting domestic terrorists"? I truly believe that in the next coming years, anyone associated with the militia, is critical of the government, is a "Tea Party" member, or has XXX firearms will be targetted in the name of "safety and security". Everything the feds have done thus far is to set it up to this moment.

    *Patriot Act renewal
    *Operation "Fast and Furious"
    *HR 5122
    *Southern States having to report two or more "Assault Rifle" purchases

    I can go on and on...if you think that for a second that if the ATF is disbanded that us gun-nuts can relax you are sadly mistaken. Instead of labeling us as potential murderers, they'll call us "terrorists". We'll be the new communists; a scapegoat to blame the worlds problems on.
     
  17. Jamie6.5

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    Used to.
    Dept of the Treasury actually, Bureau of Internal Revenue. (revenooers, fer all you 'lightnin' makers/still operators)
    But then they got brought over to the DOJ.
    Ever since shortly after 9/11, when GWB signed the Homeland Security Act.
     
  18. Hawaiian

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    It is in part so that Holder has more direct control over firearms and ammo so he can register them and deny law abiding citizens access to them.
     
  19. 61henry

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    It would be nice but we would only end up with storm troopers or worse.....mobs of blue helmeted thugs knocking on your doors.
     
  20. natef

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    While I think there needs to be repercussions for the failings they have had lately, I don't think things would get any better for those who legally go through all the channels and have to actually deal with the ATF or own firearms. I have no doubt that they would make a time where ammo and firearms would be unavailable. This would be a perfect thing for the far left to just make a blanket decision and whoof all our rights go out the window. I served my country long enough to understand that they will take any right away from anyone when they can.
     

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