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DOJ eliminating BATF?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Bigfoot, Oct 1, 2011.

  1. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot Clack Co. OR Well-Known Member

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    I'll believe it when I see it but here it is.

    Bombshell: DOJ Considering Elimination of ATF - Katie Pavlich - Townhall Conservative

     
  2. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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  3. plasticfood

    plasticfood Portland OR New Member

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    Imagine losing your job, of getting paid to monitor the goings on at NWFA.
     
  4. swoop

    swoop Milwaukie, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    That's great! Now if we can clean up the DOJ, streamline the EPA, and DOE, ect. ect...who knows, this country may still have a chance at survival.
     
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  5. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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  6. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    They'll just replace it with something worse,...
    And put janet napolitano and eric holder in charge of it.
     
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    sailorman2010 Tri-Cities, WA Member

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    I agree Jamie6.5, They will just change the name to something else. They may "let go" some of the bad crop of agents they have, but it will be the same old agency with a new name.

    Any name suggestions? Booze, Butts and Guns-sound good?
     
  8. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Will they be the "bad crop?"

    Or will they just be the ones that Andrew Traver doesn't like,...

    I'll bet Andrew Traver will be the decider of who stays and who goes.
    More anti-gun Chicago politics is on the way!
     
  9. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    Somehow the news do not make me jump with joy. Leave it to the Feds and politicians to screw this up, too.
     
  10. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't ATF belong to the Dept of Revenue? Hmm...

    I think it's just the Federal budget thing of offering early retirement for people to trim the budget. Happens in every dept this time every year.
     
  11. Private R Wiggum

    Private R Wiggum RCMP Barracks Member

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    hmm... seems like shuffling from one 3 -lettered agency to another 3-lettered agency.

    thanks for the scoop Bigfoot!
     
  12. locobob

    locobob Beaverton, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    1. Simplify/Streamline the Regs.
    2. Let the FBI handle firearms and explosives.
    3. Alcohol and tobacco can go to FDA / DEA
    Result = one less bureaucracy.
     
  13. Wood Worker

    Wood Worker Linn County Oregon Active Member

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    I would think that another alphabet soup agency would pick up those who were fired and the saga would continue.
    Only the government would try to say how they erased the agency to save the tax payers money, etc.
    Sound familiar?
     
  14. 22many

    22many PNW Well-Known Member

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    As the old saying goes, careful what you wish for.......
     
  15. Atroxus

    Atroxus Marysville, WA Member

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    I'll believe it when I see it. But even if it does happen just disbanding the ATF will only mean the same laws will be enforced by a different agency. Same dog, different leash.
     
  16. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    Rumor...the feds need their Jack Booted thugs to enforce their dirty work on controlling guns. And even if they did disband the ATF, you don't think there will be some new faction from the Department of Homeland Security to go after us "right-wing extremist, gun-totting domestic terrorists"? I truly believe that in the next coming years, anyone associated with the militia, is critical of the government, is a "Tea Party" member, or has XXX firearms will be targetted in the name of "safety and security". Everything the feds have done thus far is to set it up to this moment.

    *Patriot Act renewal
    *Operation "Fast and Furious"
    *HR 5122
    *Southern States having to report two or more "Assault Rifle" purchases

    I can go on and on...if you think that for a second that if the ATF is disbanded that us gun-nuts can relax you are sadly mistaken. Instead of labeling us as potential murderers, they'll call us "terrorists". We'll be the new communists; a scapegoat to blame the worlds problems on.
     
  17. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Used to.
    Dept of the Treasury actually, Bureau of Internal Revenue. (revenooers, fer all you 'lightnin' makers/still operators)
    But then they got brought over to the DOJ.
    Ever since shortly after 9/11, when GWB signed the Homeland Security Act.
     
  18. Hawaiian

    Hawaiian Tigard Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It is in part so that Holder has more direct control over firearms and ammo so he can register them and deny law abiding citizens access to them.
     
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    61henry Island City, Oregon Member

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    It would be nice but we would only end up with storm troopers or worse.....mobs of blue helmeted thugs knocking on your doors.
     
  20. natef

    natef Gresham OR Active Member

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    While I think there needs to be repercussions for the failings they have had lately, I don't think things would get any better for those who legally go through all the channels and have to actually deal with the ATF or own firearms. I have no doubt that they would make a time where ammo and firearms would be unavailable. This would be a perfect thing for the far left to just make a blanket decision and whoof all our rights go out the window. I served my country long enough to understand that they will take any right away from anyone when they can.