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Does the Constitution work?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Kimber Custom, Feb 3, 2016.

  1. Kimber Custom

    Kimber Custom Vancouver, WA Bronze Vendor Bronze Vendor

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    Well worth 30 minutes of your time.
     
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    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    could only finish 11 minutes at this time. I'll continue later but it is excellent and ought to be shown in every high school sophomore class and then on TV in place of the Kardashians.
     
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  3. therealhitman

    therealhitman USA Well-Known Member

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    This one was from a little while back, but she is an impressive speaker.


    Get her on TV so the zombies can hear!
     
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  4. Hybrid Slave

    Hybrid Slave Medford Member

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    TO ANYONE WHO COMPLAINS ABOUT GOVERNMENT IN ANY WAY, YOU MUST WATCH THIS.
    This woman's presentation is, in my opinion, 99.99995% bullet proof.
    She knows her stuff! She absolutely GETS IT.
    This is one of those rare moments in my life where I find myself in a smoldering lust over a woman's intellect rather than her body.
    Based upon this presentation alone, I would vote and campaign for her.
    (Still, no one is perfect, so I'll have to check out her other videos on Youtube, and see what she has to say about other things as well).
    But this one is worth 30 minutes of yours and your kids' time...for yours AND YOUR KIDS' FUTURES.
     
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  5. Otter

    Otter Oregon - mid Willamette Valley Active Member

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    She is a great speaker and very good at presenting her interpretation of The Constitution. Not only that, it could very well be what the framers intended. But at this point it doesn't matter. For the last 125 years the courts, including the Supreme Court, has ruled that the property clause of The Constitution does indeed extend the right to the Federal Government to own and regulate land. That precedent will never change because the courts will rarely ever change the direction of common law.

    The good news is common law is on our side for gun rights. Almost all precedent cases at this point have ruled in favor of the 2nd Amendment.
     
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  6. Kimber Custom

    Kimber Custom Vancouver, WA Bronze Vendor Bronze Vendor

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    That is the entire point of the first video - it's 'We the People' that have the power. We get to decide what is constitutional. We get the hold our elected officials accountable (and try them for treason for breaking their oath to uphold the constitution). We the people created the 3 branches of government including the judicial branch. The only authority they have is what we the people grant them. It's by the consent of the governed. Stop giving consent to unconstitutional laws.

    It does matter.
     
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  7. waglockfan

    waglockfan Puget Sound Well-Known Member

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    Very true, KC. This woman is very smart and we'll spoken, maybe she could run for office some day and effect some "change" in the "right" direction.
     
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  8. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Hmmmm..... sounds familiar to when "the church" didn't want the masses to be able to read the Bible for themselves, keeping them dependent on "priests" to "interpret" the scriptures for them... then that little invention called the "printing press" went and done unraveled the whole dang system! o_O:rolleyes:
     
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  9. Otter

    Otter Oregon - mid Willamette Valley Active Member

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    The courts are at your disposal to challenge the constitutionality of any and all laws. That is how it works. Good luck challenging laws that have 125 years of common law supporting the constitutionality of them. Would like to see it changed...and I call first dibs on Fish Lake on the west side of the Steens.
     
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    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Fat chance, because more often than not a judge will declare that you have "no standing". :rolleyes:
     
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  11. Kimber Custom

    Kimber Custom Vancouver, WA Bronze Vendor Bronze Vendor

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    Too bad there are no common law courts anymore. Once again, we the people are to blame.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    act on.....internet warrior...what drives...you...we will succumb to what we have witnessed..the transfer of sovereignty..the bad-assery you jest....our own carry the knife
     
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    csa_ap_hill North East part of Oregon Well-Known Member

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    anyone have any good links to download internet radio that would have here show along with some of the others out there? I had one, but it's like very malicious so got rid of it. It did have Alex jones on it, and some others but could never get Dave Hodges or anything else on it.
     
  15. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Without action, words are just words.

    Without violence, laws are just words.

    Without threat of violence, the 2A and the Constitution as a whole are just words.
     
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  16. Kimber Custom

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    There are 2 ways to influence people - Persuasive argument and Force.
     
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    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    That is correct.... reason or force, that's it, there's nothing else.
     
  18. csa_ap_hill

    csa_ap_hill North East part of Oregon Well-Known Member

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    No! No! it don't not any more.
     
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    PaulB47 Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    She's right, it doesn't work. However she still buys such collectivist notions as "the consent of the governed" and representative government.

    “But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.”
    -- Lysander Spooner
     
  20. Kimber Custom

    Kimber Custom Vancouver, WA Bronze Vendor Bronze Vendor

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    It wasn't a failure of the constitution - it's a failure of the people.

    "I apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe ... Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. -- From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing. Make them intelligent, and they will be vigilant; give them the means of detecting the wrong, and they will apply the remedy."

    Daniel Webster - June 1, 1837