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Dodged a bullet, $7500 fine

Discussion in 'Outdoor Shooting Areas' started by ditchtiger, Apr 2, 2016.

  1. ditchtiger

    ditchtiger In the sticks, Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Had just pulled into a spot I'd been shooting at for years when a Deputy stopped and started questioning me. Was only there for 2 minutes and had not even opened anything up. This was
    Weyerhaeuser Co. land and anyone shooting on it would get a fine and confiscation of all firearms. Got off with a warning as I had not shot yet. There was a fellow shooting up the road from me, the Deputy said that guy was next and he would not be happy with the visit he was about to get. Be careful out there and double check the area you are at. Takes the fun out of going shooting. He did say enforcement was going up because of all the garbage being left.
     
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  2. 2A2Dend

    2A2Dend .. Well-Known Member

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    From the sounds of it, I'd say your timing to get there was, lucky?
    Did you support the lottery today?
     
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  3. ditchtiger

    ditchtiger In the sticks, Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    I never play the lotteries, I feel lucky if I find a penny. And I will pick it up.
     
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  4. eightyeight mag

    eightyeight mag sw wa Active Member

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    Just out of curiosity were there signs?
    In Wa Weyerhaeuser has gates and signs so you know you have crossed onto their turf.
     
  5. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Did you pass thru one of their gates or just on the edge of their property? Around here they have it all pretty well posted.
     
  6. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    This is the first time that I've heard of confiscating property for the offense of trespassing.
     
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  7. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Uh yeah - what law are they citing for this?

    I would think there would at least have to be signs for that hefty of a penalty.

    Also, it would be better if they warned people at first to get the word out.
     
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  8. ditchtiger

    ditchtiger In the sticks, Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    NO gates, signs at earlier on the road several miles back. Starkly comes to mind but several miles back. I'm not going to argue or reason with a badge. It's yes sir, no sir, thank you sir. And get out of there.
     
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  9. ditchtiger

    ditchtiger In the sticks, Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    This was Benton county, west of Monroe about ten miles.
     
  10. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Not me, I can't bend over far enough!!!! lol:p
     
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  11. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I thought I found a good place today for distance.

    turns out up to the red line is state forest and the blue line goes into Weyerhaeuser land. No roads into the area. Not sure how you would know

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  12. coyote223

    coyote223 NW Oregon Stamp Collector,,,

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    Sure hope Weyerhaeuser is paying for the upscale enforcement, with all their new found wealth from access fees and the like,,,

    Would hate to see us taxpayers giving them a $$$$ break on that as well,,, :rolleyes:
     
  13. 2A2Dend

    2A2Dend .. Well-Known Member

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    Everywhere I've been that accesses Whorehauser via road has been marked with big yellow gates and clearly stated rules of specific entry at the boundry. If the signs are not there, some douche likely hooked a chain to them and pulled them from the ground, or took them off nearby trees. Huh, what signs? o_O:rolleyes:

    I also heard rumor that if your caught on Whorehauser lands on an ATV, they can legally confiscate it/them.
     
  14. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I guess a person has to go scout areas, then go back and google maps and look at property lines and so on - if that is possible.

    About 40 years ago, back when the Rickreall watershed was open to shooters, dirt bike riders and people cutting wood, I had a permit to cut dead wood on (I think) Pope & Talbot private land. There was a windfall and we had gone about 100 yards past a semi-hidden sign we missed onto BLM land, and we were cutting up a fallen tree for firewood when a huge Terex came down the road and the operator got out and told us we were on BLM land.

    We scooted out of there, but the FBI caught up with us about a month later. We told them we made a mistake. They took our statements and left. They were more interested in some people down the road that were cutting down live trees for firewood.

    Several years later, the FBI came back and wanted to fine us $10K damages :eek: - triple damages for some reason (we had cut up about 1k BF). The guy I was doing the cutting with had a high powered attorney for a cousin who had connections in Salem, and he bargained them down to $600 which we paid. *phew*

    I think the FBI couldn't find the other guys who were cutting live trees, so they were under pressure to show some kind of results for the case and close it out, so they came after us. :rolleyes:

    So yeah, it pays to know whether you are on private or public land, either way.
     
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    rainierrifleco gig harbor New Member

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    Glad I moved......
     
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    CLT65 Yamhill County Active Member

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    Ditchtiger, similar thing happened to me a couple years ago, in Yamhill county. We pulled up to a shooting area that had clearly been used for many decades and were getting ready to shoot. Up rolls a Weyerhaeuser security guy in a big huff.

    We were as polite as could be, apologizing for our mistake if we were somewhere we weren't supposed to be. He would have none of it, total jerk. He boxed us in with his truck and said there was a state trooper coming to talk to us, and if we tried to leave he would hunt us down and arrest us.

    I knew that was bs because we hadn't done anything wrong, hadn't even shot yet, but to be polite we waited. The officer was not friendly but at least he was professional and we left on good terms.

    They accomplished their goal of putting the scare into us. I wouldn't go anywhere near Weyerhaeuser land on a dare. I joined a nearby gun club with a nice range. It's closer, safer, nicer, and a lot more convenient. It only $100 per year and I'm sure I've picked up that much empty brass that other people leave!
     
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  17. orygun

    orygun West Linn Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Weyerhaeuser is not the sportsman's friend. Not only do they charge for entry, they are cutting the hell out of what was Longview Fibre land so much that even when they replant it won't likely hold wildlife. But, they also will enforce any property laws they can.
    Their gates are well marked, but unlike the occasional USFS Boundary marker, they have none. Better know where their boundary is.

    Ya might tell where the off limits shooting place is, just to keep other's out of a predicament.
     
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  18. 2A2Dend

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    Send all the shooters that like to leave their mess behind, over the whorehauser borders..LOL! :rolleyes:
     
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    nwwoodsman Vernonia Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    This is absolute bullbubblegum! Why are state police using public resources to patrol land owned by private timber companies?
     
  20. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    If you were essentially a multi-billionaire like that corporation is, you would get special police protection too. :D
     
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