I've now attended several classes at Oregon Firearms Academy (OFA), have had some training from combat veterans and other trainers, and have been shooting IDPA for several years. I've shot a couple of 3 gun matches, some IPSC, some Speed Steel, and have reached a couple of conclusions: games are great fun, but they are not training. I think that at times it is easy to confuse the two. I am not at all saying that the games don't have some value, as you are manipulating your gun, perhaps your carry gear, and encountering targets that may move or disappear. I believe that the problems arise perhaps even in the descriptions of the stages. In IDPA, I have never been shot at by my cardboard target, and have never even contemplated that happening. In the training courses at OFA, that has been spoken of many times: what if you are shot in your strong hand? what part of the target do you shoot first to stop them fastest? what if you don't have a perfect sight picture? These are the questions that the gun games just can't deal with properly. My conclusions recently have been to enjoy the games for what they are worth, but to continue to train to encounter evil and violent folks with my carry gear. Any comments? Anyone disagree?