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Dillon 650 and stick powders

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by My 3 sons, Feb 16, 2013.

  1. My 3 sons

    My 3 sons Bonney Lake Active Member

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    I have been reloading on my 650 for over a year ow and used Tacoma ball and flake powders so far. I got a recommendation for H4895 for my 308 and 223 but I am concerned about the consistency of the drop in the powder dispenser with a stick powder. Before I buy the H4895 I wanted to pick your brains for any experiences you have had with it. A I right to be concerned or are there tricks to get it to load correctly consistently?
  2. motoman98

    motoman98 Gresham, OR Active Member

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    There is only ONE powder measure I know of that will consistantly and accurately measure stick powders.
    All the others either cut them or allow the granules to "bridge" at the cartridge case neck when dumping and do an erratic job.
    Go to: Quick Measure - The Accurate Powder Measure (I've met the inventer, and he is one sharp guy/engineer.)
    fyi, I am not a newbie; and have a Redding turret, a Dillon 550, a Dillon 1050 and another set up for 50bmg.
  3. rgold1963

    rgold1963 Washington State Active Member

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    motorman98 is right. I finally bought a Quick Measure a couple of weeks ago to load H4350 and Varget on my 650. Went from +/- .7gr to +/- .2gr with 4350 which has been the worst for consistent powder throws for me. Not a cheap solution but if you want to use stick powders, it's the only thing I have found that works.

  4. ma96782

    ma96782 Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Stick powders have always given me the "shake head side to side." It's in their nature to go "ka-chunk" when you operate the powder lever (cutting the sticks). But, some powders might be better than others. Oh well.

    Anyway, I LIKE ball powders better for that main reason.

    But......as for consistency of the drop........well, that comes with practice.

    I wrote this for single station loaders NOT for progressive machines. BUT......it's still all about the STROKE, IMHO. ;)

    BTW.......for me......I've gone to using a single station press for all of my rifle cartridge (bottle neck cases) reloading. I only use a progressive machine on straight walled pistol cartridges. That's how I roll.

    Aloha, Mark
  5. deadshot2

    deadshot2 NW Quadrant WA State Well-Known Member

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    I loaded a bunch of H4895 in some .308 rounds using my 650 about a year ago. Wasn't all that bad. Weight checks were usually within .2gr or less variation yet performance "on paper" wasn't that bad at ranges under 300 yards. .2 gr is less than 1/2 of one percent variation in powder weight in that powder/cartridge combo. If that "percentage" transferred directly to velocity variation that would mean about 12 fps variation. In reality, the variance in speed, if no other factors override (neck tension, case volume, etc), would be less.