DHS buys even more ammo!

[NiceAsh]

VERY WELL STATED; MISINFORMATION CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS AND SHOULD BE CURTAILED. PLEASE CHECK SOURCES FOR VERIFICATION.

For reference, here is the DHS Bid Request PDF

HSFLAR-13-Q-00014

 

[tfbit]

It's called "Capitalism" if they're spending they're own money. In this case they are spending taxpayer dollars (and probably overpaying) so it's called "Gubermint".

I am glad they are buying some ammo. I don't see anything wrong with it. If the market needs more ammo it will appear, maybe not as fast as you like, but it will happen. it's spelled C-A-P-I-T-A-L-I-S-M.

 

[Oathkeeper1775]

Ah yes,

the vivid memories of my older sibling intentionally back-washing into a full 2 liter bottle of soda.........

to make it his.........

 

[Blue Devil PA]

"To put that in perspective, during the height of active battle operations in Iraq, US soldiers used 5.5 million rounds of ammunition a month. Extrapolating the figures, the DHS has purchased enough bullets over the last 10 months to wage a full scale war for almost 30 years." -http://www.infowars.com/dhs-purchases-21-6-million-more-rounds-of-ammunition/

WOW!

I agree! One thing that isn't accounted for in the above statement is that in Iraq we (US Forces) were using belt fed weapons that burned through ammo even faster than magazine based weapons. Add in the vehicle mounted weapons. Then add in the operational tempo, which was intensive - a lot of rounds were going downrange every hour. Hard to imagine the DHS "needing" that much ammo. I think that one unintended benefit to the DHS is that every round they stockpile is another round out of circulation, courtesy of the very people who the DHS want to control.

 

[Blue Devil PA]

I am glad they are buying some ammo. I don't see anything wrong with it. If the market needs more ammo it will appear, maybe not as fast as you like, but it will happen. it's spelled C-A-P-I-T-A-L-I-S-M.

That is not true capitalism. The government is using money taken from individuals for services that the public does not want (or need) and spends it, when it needs more it takes more. There is no profit driven pursuit! For capitalism to occur DHS would have to be providing a service for profit and allocating their profits toward making more profit, not spending money that miraculously appears each fiscal year.

Government competing against the individual is not and never will be "free market", "capitalism" or whatever claptrap you care to invent.

And by the way before you spell out capitalism - read up on it

 

[Slugger]

Surely its all being done for our safety . . . . . righhhhht? I stopped trusting the government a long time ago. This is history repeating folks.

 

[Brewpubeaver]

i took the photo of the 160,000 rounds in the elevator....

they also just installed a 30,000 gallon fuel storage tank..... prepping some might say

 

[chariot13]

i took the photo of the 160,000 rounds in the elevator....

they also just installed a 30,000 gallon fuel storage tank..... prepping some might say

Damn so whoever did the math earlier on a mere 75k of rounds coming to 4k+ per security personel per year there, you can double it & then some.... crazy

 

[Stomper]

i took the photo of the 160,000 rounds in the elevator....

they also just installed a 30,000 gallon fuel storage tank..... prepping some might say

Mmm... Lookit all them boolits..... Come to Butthead!

 

[Nelson555]

Is the VA Selling any ammo? lol

 

[oknow]

I sure wouldn't want to be the guy pushing all that ammo around. to good of a chance of being held up.

 

[Dinged]

I wonder how much that weighs.

 

[tkdguy]

Investors Business Daily, 2/8/12. This article provides new new information, size and numbers and references the head of Home Land Security (JN) "deleating" critical information from public purchase documets. This is an excellant read.

 

[mosinguy1]

here is the link for ya Why are the feds loading up on so much ammo? by Andrew Malcolm - Investors.com

 

[Caveman Jim]

This has got to get the blood pumping!!!

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." BHO

 

[Oathkeeper1775]

The people who do not see it now, never will, because they want it this way!

So be it.

 

[trekkerpaul]

"To put that in perspective, during the height of active battle operations in Iraq, US soldiers used 5.5 million rounds of ammunition a month. Extrapolating the figures, the DHS has purchased enough bullets over the last 10 months to wage a full scale war for almost 30 years." -http://www.infowars.com/dhs-purchases-21-6-million-more-rounds-of-ammunition/

WOW!

I do believe the number was actually 55 million per year not 5.5. That being said DHS is at best slowing the private party purchase of hand gun ammo for at least a month or two. There seems to be an undercurrent that is geared to take this administration through March, which we all know is the month for the UN treaty. I will not be at all surprised if this administration signs it. Negotiations were opened back up with the UN in 2009 at the administrations prompting. The UN would not be pursuing except for that. I can see that that being said there has been plans being made by this administration to gear towards possible marshal law. From military and police coordinated training in urban areas to Fema camps that do not exist. If marshal law is put in place they will be kicking in doors to get guns. It would be likely the administration would ask the UN to bring troops in to help, especially if our military didn't back the move by the administration. All of what has made America strong and proud is being picked apart along with our Constitution. Sad days

 

[2506]

The Great DHS Ammunition Stockpile Myth | DHS | Fox Nation

 

[drew]

The Great DHS Ammunition Stockpile Myth | DHS | Fox Nation

MYTH: DHS purchased an unprecedented 450 million rounds of .40 S&W 180gr hollow point bullets in 2012.

FACT: This is a standard five year contract that follows a historical purchasing pattern of DHS. Furthermore, it is not an “unprecedented” purchase by DHS. In fact, it is not even a purchase by DHS but by Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Starting in 2003, orders of 50 million and 225 million .40 S&W hollow point ammunition totaling 275 million rounds were purchased. After the expiration of the five year contracts in 2008, ICE purchased an additional 575 million rounds of .40 S&W hollow point ammunition with two separate orders (200 million and 375 million). Now, with the expiration of the 2008 contract, ICE has ordered a maximum of 450 million rounds over the next five years.

ICE is under DHS. Most of their other points make sense.

 

[USAF Medic]

There is a rule, that a government agency can not return money left over in your budget. You have to spend it. Maybe that is the situation at DHS.
War with NORTH KOREA will make for civilian ammo shortages that you won't
believe.

I can not believe a large stash of ammo is at the VS hospital.
It is against the genetics convention to store munitions in a hospital.