Descreet reloading bench for apartment

[ma96782]

Been there and done that........



But then......Yup.
Life is full of COMPROMISES.
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So then, in my short experience with the tool.......

For straight-walled pistol caliber cases.......
I found it slow, though acceptable enough.

Then, if you want MORE PRODUCTION.......
You should/will probably want/need to also seriously think about........
Doing more processes without a press (to speed up the process).

Huh?

Why use that set up, to reprime cases? And, dropping powder (without spilling) and then seating bullets? Yeah......maybe a much steadier (bench) setup is called for?

That being said.....
It was a PIA when doing full-length resizing of .223 caliber cases. And forget about doing full length resizing of .308W cases. Neck sizing only was OK though.

As with any suggestion of mine....
Your mileage will vary.

Aloha, Mark

 

[Alexx1401]

Been there and done that........

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Life is full of COMPROMISES.
So then, in my short experience with the tool.......

For straight-walled pistol caliber cases.......
I found it slow, though acceptable enough.

Then, if you want MORE PRODUCTION.......
You should probably/will probably want to/need to also seriously think about........
Doing more processes without a press (to speed up the process).

Huh?

Why use that set up, to reprime cases? And, dropping powder (without spilling) and then seating bullets? Yeah......maybe a much steadier (bench) setup is called for?

That being said.....
It was a PIA when doing full-length resizing of .223 caliber cases. And forget about doing full length .308W cases. Neck sizing only was OK though.

As with any suggestion of mine....
Your mileage will vary.

Aloha, Mark

I have LONG wondered how many people who buy one of the hand press's turn around and buy something like a Turret press within a week?
If someone wanted to roll up say one box of strait wall pistol ammo and that would be it? Maybe. Suspect few ever stick with one though.

 

[dangerranger60]

I have LONG wondered how many people who buy one of the hand press's turn around and buy something like a Turret press within a week?
If someone wanted to roll up say one box of strait wall pistol ammo and that would be it? Maybe. Suspect few ever stick with one though.

I bought one to reload while I was traveling for work. I found it slow and unsatisfying. I do use it as a seating tool for building new loads at the range.
I take along a powder measure and primed prepped cases, and just finish them at the range. DR

 

[Koda]

Note, I'm not certain when I will move yet so the ideas are for after the move and get settled in.
The Lee hand press Ive always thought was a cool idea but I will never need to be that discreet. It wont be a big deal to unbolt my Rebel single stage press and stow in a box marked "crafts" with all my other "craft supplies". Im not worried about any landlord opening boxes, drawers etc. and if Im that concerned a simple webcam these days solves that issue quickly.

Lots of good ideas shared to spark the imagination when I need to get set up again.

 

[Alexx1401]

I bought one to reload while I was traveling for work. I found it slow and unsatisfying. I do use it as a seating tool for building new loads at the range.
I take along a powder measure and primed prepped cases, and just finish them at the range. DR

Now that I have read of several doing. When working up different loads they would prep everything, then at the bench they could try different recipes making just a few rounds at a time. This works great when all the other work was done at home on a press. Suspect a LOT of people buy one thinking they will roll with it only to soon decide to spend a few more bucks and get a press. When I was a kid I "tried" one of the Lee Loaders because it was CHEAP and I was of course not rolling in money
It certainly worked but, was not long till it got relegated to a junk drawer and never used again.

 

[P7M13]

It certainly worked but, was not long till it got relegated to a junk drawer and never used again.

I hold onto my Lee Loader for 12ga, 16ga, and 357 for that über-paranoid "what-if" SHTF scenario. I doubt I'll ever use them, but they take up no space and are a nostalgic item to me, since that's the way I started reloading back in '85.

 

[RVTECH]

It wont be a big deal to unbolt my Rebel single stage press and stow in a box marked "crafts" with all my other "craft supplies".

Why concern yourself with it anyway? It's not like you are doing anything illegal.

 

[Alexx1401]

Why concern yourself with it anyway? It's not like you are doing anything illegal.

Sounds like the OP has some kind of arrangement with the landlord that they are going to randomly be coming in to "inspect" the place. I would not live in a place like this but I have to guess they must be setting a price too good for him to pass up. He rightly seems to think they will have a problem with anything to do with guns. Since they want to come in and snoop around in the place I can see why he would think that. Again I have to "guess" the place came at a price too good to pass up to tolerate this.

 

[ORhutner]

This: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...WyuuK1v31r1LvhYERpThrH6AXm7pV2o48X&pid=629993

with an inline fabrication mount works great. Fold it up and put it in a closet when your not reloading.

 

[ORhutner]

Some good ideas, i was actually wondering about a roll top desk but it might be hard to find one sturdy enough thats affordable.

I frequently see roll top desks for free on craigslist and marketplace. I always figure it is because they aren't the lightest or easiest thing to move for most people.

 

[Koda]

Why concern yourself with it anyway? It's not like you are doing anything illegal.

Apartments are allowed to ban guns or any other items they feel dangerous. A workbench full of gunpowder containers... anti gun or not an average apt manager might not understand these items are safe.

Sounds like the OP has some kind of arrangement with the landlord that they are going to randomly be coming in to "inspect" the place. I would not live in a place like this but I have to guess they must be setting a price too good for him to pass up. He rightly seems to think they will have a problem with anything to do with guns. Since they want to come in and snoop around in the place I can see why he would think that. Again I have to "guess" the place came at a price too good to pass up to tolerate this.

I dont have an arrangement yet, moving in maybe a month or two. All apartments require yearly inspections, this is standard and tennants have no choice. They have to give at least 24hrs notice but they all do yearly inspections. When I last lived in an apt I had a small safe in the closet and never an issue ( doubt they even looked), but again, a shelf full of gunpowder and equipment to manufacture ammunition out in the open might freak out some worry wart apt manager.
Apartments do have a right to ban anything they want on their premises.

 

[Camelfilter]

Apartments are allowed to ban guns or any other items they feel dangerous. A workbench full of gunpowder containers... anti gun or not an average apt manager might not understand these items are safe.

I dont have an arrangement yet, moving in maybe a month or two. All apartments require yearly inspections, this is standard and tennants have no choice. They have to give at least 24hrs notice but they all do yearly inspections. When I last lived in an apt I had a small safe in the closet and never an issue ( doubt they even looked), but again, a shelf full of gunpowder and equipment to manufacture ammunition out in the open might freak out some worry wart apt manager.
Apartments do have a right to ban anything they want on their premises.

Similar to no firearms signs at stores, itself is not illegal. However folks violating the store policy could be trespassed I'd figure. Similar would apply to breaking a tenancy lease rules agreement, trespass & broken lease.

If such were to occur (getting legally trespassed from somewhere), it MIGHT affect a CHL. Either immediately, or upon renewal. Probably depends too on severity/circumstances. ie broken lease without LE involvement vs with LE involvement/eviction etc etc.

Dunno, obviously. Not a lawyer & been a while since we stayed at a Holiday Inn. Also, never been evicted or trespassed.

 

[Koda]

Similar to no firearms signs at stores, itself is not illegal. However folks violating the store policy could be trespassed I'd figure. Similar would apply to breaking a tenancy lease rules agreement, trespass & broken lease.

If such were to occur (getting legally trespassed from somewhere), it MIGHT affect a CHL. Either immediately, or upon renewal. Probably depends too on severity/circumstances. ie broken lease without LE involvement vs with LE involvement/eviction etc etc.

Dunno, obviously. Not a lawyer & been a while since we stayed at a Holiday Inn. Also, never been evicted or trespassed.

Yes, its not illegal but they can evict you over it.
When I look at apartments they don't publish their contract on their websites, so one will not know what the rules are until they apply. The last time I rented an apartment they prohibited smoking, and if I recall basic dangerous things like storing gasoline. I don't know where gunpowder lands in the dangerous items category but it could be considered "flammables".

Regardless, in an apt community its just not wise to let it be obvious you own guns anyways, let alone you manufacture your own ammo.

 

[RVTECH]

I have LONG wondered how many people who buy one of the hand press's turn around and buy something like a Turret press within a week?

Well, 'back in the day' before the 'net' and information instantly obtainable I can 'kind of understand' .

Hey, when I got into reloading (before the net) I did my best to 'research' it, talk to people, and I even remember going to the local library and looking at the 'ABCs of reloading' (and other) books.

When all was 'said and done' I STILL bought a 'Lee Loader' - and not long after bought an RCBS RockChucker kit.

I don't know. MAYBE I initially THOUGHT the Lee Loader was going to work for me, and be 'practical' for the cost but 'reality' hit me pretty quick...

 

[quneur]

If it isn't on the lease its allowable. The apartment management may try to evict but I really doubt it will hold up in the courts. No apartment I've ever rented disallowed firearms. I was also anxious the first time my current complex management said they were going to enter my apartment. So I called them and they said it will management employees and that they have multiple tenants who own firearms. They came in but it was only to check the smoke detector.

Even the HOA can not disallow firearms. There was a ruling from the courts some years ago on this issue.

 

[P7M13]

Even the HOA can not disallow firearms. There was a ruling from the courts some years ago on this issue.

My HOA would, if they could.

 

[Camelfilter]

My HOA would, if they could.

Most would, if they could.

HOA = Cray cray...

 

[P7M13]

Most would, if they could.

HOA = Cray cray...

Yep, thought police.

 

[Koda]

If it isn't on the lease its allowable. The apartment management may try to evict but I really doubt it will hold up in the courts. No apartment I've ever rented disallowed firearms.

Gunpowder could be considered "flammable", like storing gasoline. I can remember but pretty sure the last time I rented an apt it didn't allow certain items like gasoline. If its not in the lease it wont hold up in court, but Id rather not even be on the radar.


It used to be property owners could ban firearms inside the home prior to Heller (2008) but they can still ban certain items they deem dangerous like gunpowder.

 

[Alexx1401]

My HOA would, if they could.

Many horror stories about HOA's. They can be a HUGE PITA but, there is a reason they come about. All it takes is one person to decide they want to turn their place into something that looks like a landfill and it can make others lives miserable. So people see this and set up HOA's. Problem is they are run by humans and there is always some who just LOVE having some idea of power over others. There are some really hilarious video's of some of these clowns acting like something out of a cartoon when someone tells them to pound sand.