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Got concealed gun? Check. Got permit to carry said gun? Check. Got both taken away by cop after he saw your gun, pointed his weapon in your face, discounted your "facially valid" permit and left you alone in a high crime area? Check
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I don't get how the police officer was worried about his personal safety in all this!? Seems to me that he saw the firearm and took it upon himself to confront the man, irrespective of the attorneys actions, which, if he was walking around in a suite in a high crime area, where not eactly threatening.
As is usual, the article does not (and usually won't) report all of the facts in the matter, so it's up to us to speculate, but it does seem unfair.
From an Officer Safety aspect and from a duty to protect prospective, think of this:
a. Does someone with a valid CCW negate the possibility of criminal action? Um. No!
b. Would you not want to hold a police officer accountable if he failed to verify a CCW when he sees a concealed weapon and later it turns out that that same CCW holder had just shot his neighbor over some stupid dispute?
c. Do you expect that the police officer should have magical powers to know whether a CCW holder is not a potential threat when confronted?
In addition, we have no verification of the "lecture" given by the officer. All we are hearing from is the "lawyer" who sued.
any citizen daring to carry, lawfully, a concealed weapon in public.
he leapt out of his patrol car "in a dynamic and explosive manner" with his gun drawn, pointing it at the attorney's face.
a concealed weapons permit has absolutely nothing to do with criminal action. That goes both ways. Though it does show that the person had at least not been convicted of disabling offenses prior to getting it.
I do not want police officers to have the responsibility to see the future and keep me safe from every thing that could "potentially" harm me. I do not want a police officer to think every person he runs into every day may have just killed his neighbor. I would think some other evidence of criminal behavior would be required for them to jump to that conclusion.
The only magical powers the police officer needs to have is common sense and a slight grasp on logic and reason. Being a "potential threat" is not a crime and every breathing person falls into this category. Some inanimate objects do also. You can't just lock up every person than can "potentially" harm you. You can't disable all buses because they can "potentially run you over."
Remember folks. We are talking about Massachusetts. One of the most restrictive states in regards to weapons not in the Pacific Northwest.
http://www.usacarry.com/massachusetts_concealed_carry_permit_information.html
Clearly, this lawyer was not concealed, or the police officer would not have seen it. Open carry in MASS is not legal.
Unfortunately while not magic these seem to be traits that are missing with a lot of LEO's (especially the younger ones)The only magical powers the police officer needs to have is common sense and a slight grasp on logic and reason.
Just another power trip and abuse of power. Nothing new and it won't change......... Many officers love the power trip they have and abuse. I guess he just guess the client has to conceal it better next time. Ah the great nation we live in.
And a lot of civilians feel entitled to act like jerks around LEO's because they heard a story once that happened to their cousin's, mother's, sister's, son's, best friends college roommate, where a young LEO got a bit mouthy during a traffic stop.
Abuse of power happens. In law enforcement jobs and other jobs. But let's all try to remember most officers are good men and women doing an incredibly difficult job. Please remember; when you here a story of alleged "abuse" by an officer against some criminal (or at least someone suspected of a criminal act), lets give the officer the benefit of the doubt, or at least afford them the same courtesy we give the dirt-bags, Innocent Until Proven Guilty. In a court or hearing, not the court of public opinion...
God Bless All the men and women in uniform (both military and LEO).
Guess you haven't been following court cases for the last 20+ years then....
A concealed weapons permit has absolutely nothing to do with criminal action. That goes both ways. Though it does show that the person had at least not been convicted of disabling offenses prior to getting it.
I do not want police officers to have the responsibility to see the future and keep me safe from every thing that could "potentially" harm me. I do not want a police officer to think every person he runs into every day may have just killed his neighbor. I would think some other evidence of criminal behavior would be required for them to jump to that conclusion.
The only magical powers the police officer needs to have is common sense and a slight grasp on logic and reason. Being a "potential threat" is not a crime and every breathing person falls into this category. Some inanimate objects do also. You can't just lock up every person than can "potentially" harm you. You can't disable all buses because they can "potentially run you over."