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I believe this will meet all forum guidelines and I will keep it completely respectful because that is how the interaction went.
Currently away on business in SoCal (so I can bring $$$ back to the Northwest). Stopped in a very left leaning city at a farmer's market (escaped from here 7 years ago). Saw there was a Bernie booth. So I politely inquired if Bernie has the same feeling as Robert Francis (aka Beto) about rifle confiscation. They quickly distanced their candidate from him by saying anything would be voluntary (like Robert Francis said less than a year ago).
After letting them know I appreciated this difference, I asked if they knew how many murders were committed each year across the country with all types of rifles? They had no idea. So I educated them (using Obama era, FBI uniform crime statistics found here: Murder by weapon 2013-2017). I informed them it was about 400 or less each year (below 300 for 2013-15). Then asked if he would support a voluntary sports car buy back since they are far more dangerous to the public than all types of rifles. She said she understood my point.
Moved on to Chicago and asked about how the city politicians are saying that many of the guns used in crimes there come from other states. She agreed. Followed up with, " I spent last night looking up the homicide and violent crime rates of the 15 top states where guns come from when used in a crime in Chicago. All 15 have homicide rates between 1/2 and 1/10 that of Chicago. Why is that?" She found that interesting.
For the finale, I asked if she knew Bernie was essentially endorsed by the NRA at one point in time. She appeared stunned. Back in 1990 when the Republican candidate flipped on an assault weapons ban and Bernie, in a big hunting state, was being consistent with his position. (Sent by the NRA to VT members at the time, "Bernie Sanders is a more honorable choice for Vermont sportsmen than Peter Smith," wrote Wayne LaPierre.) She said they don't like him now. We agreed on that. They did show me a paper on his gun control positions. Left letting them know that I appreciated their time and willingness to discuss the facts, none of which, by the way, the disputed.
Bringing light to those living in dark, one at a time.
Currently away on business in SoCal (so I can bring $$$ back to the Northwest). Stopped in a very left leaning city at a farmer's market (escaped from here 7 years ago). Saw there was a Bernie booth. So I politely inquired if Bernie has the same feeling as Robert Francis (aka Beto) about rifle confiscation. They quickly distanced their candidate from him by saying anything would be voluntary (like Robert Francis said less than a year ago).
After letting them know I appreciated this difference, I asked if they knew how many murders were committed each year across the country with all types of rifles? They had no idea. So I educated them (using Obama era, FBI uniform crime statistics found here: Murder by weapon 2013-2017). I informed them it was about 400 or less each year (below 300 for 2013-15). Then asked if he would support a voluntary sports car buy back since they are far more dangerous to the public than all types of rifles. She said she understood my point.
Moved on to Chicago and asked about how the city politicians are saying that many of the guns used in crimes there come from other states. She agreed. Followed up with, " I spent last night looking up the homicide and violent crime rates of the 15 top states where guns come from when used in a crime in Chicago. All 15 have homicide rates between 1/2 and 1/10 that of Chicago. Why is that?" She found that interesting.
For the finale, I asked if she knew Bernie was essentially endorsed by the NRA at one point in time. She appeared stunned. Back in 1990 when the Republican candidate flipped on an assault weapons ban and Bernie, in a big hunting state, was being consistent with his position. (Sent by the NRA to VT members at the time, "Bernie Sanders is a more honorable choice for Vermont sportsmen than Peter Smith," wrote Wayne LaPierre.) She said they don't like him now. We agreed on that. They did show me a paper on his gun control positions. Left letting them know that I appreciated their time and willingness to discuss the facts, none of which, by the way, the disputed.
Bringing light to those living in dark, one at a time.
