CHL question - Kel Tec Sub 2000

[Hedrin]

So, say I have an Oregon CHL. Also say I have a KelTec Sub 2000, a foldable 9mm rifle. Would my CHL allow me to legally carry my loaded 2000 around with me in my messenger bag?

Hypothetically,
Hedrin

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[cascadianliberty2012]

From what I learned in my recent CHL class, Oregon is somewhat unique as it has no statute forbidding the concealment of a long gun. So technically, though a CHL is only good for handguns, concealing a rifle or shotgun is already because there is no law against it. I suppose there is no law because concealing a long gun is impractical, for the most part. From what I've been told, you should be good to go.

 

[Quartermaster]

From what I learned in my recent CHL class, Oregon is somewhat unique as it has no statute forbidding the concealment of a long gun. So technically, though a CHL is only good for handguns, concealing a rifle or shotgun is already because there is no law against it. I suppose there is no law because concealing a long gun is impractical, for the most part. From what I've been told, you should be good to go.

Bad advice. It is illegal to conceal ANY firearm EXCEPT handguns for CHL holders (Or anyone under ORS166.260). Look §166.250(1)(a). THAT'S that statue making illegal to conceal a long gun on your person.

ORS 166.250 - Unlawful possession of firearms - 2015 Oregon Revised Statutes

 

[cascadianliberty2012]

Bad advice. It is illegal to conceal ANY firearm EXCEPT handguns for CHL holders (Or anyone under ORS166.260). Look §166.250(1)(a). THAT'S that statue making illegal to conceal a long gun on your person.

ORS 166.250 - Unlawful possession of firearms - 2015 Oregon Revised Statutes

I'd go with that. As I said "what I've been told," not that I searched it myself yet, as this hasn't been an issue for my situation.

 

[Quartermaster]

I'd go with that. As I said "what I've been told," not that I searched it myself yet, as this hasn't been an issue for my situation.

I meant you were given bad advice, sorry for the confusion. I sat in on a CHL class with my mom and the guy kept talking about pepper spray, stun guns, and shotguns for home defense.

 

[cascadianliberty2012]

I meant you were given bad advice, sorry for the confusion. I sat in on a CHL class with my mom and the guy kept talking about pepper spray, stun guns, and shotguns for home defense.

Yeah, I don't think I heard anything wrong, as I didn't get through so much school by conflating pieces of information. I wonder if it was another state and it was just phrased in a way that lost me, but at least for the sake of just Oregon we have it cleared-up.

 

[Member 34319]

So your saying walking around with a rifle in a get home back isn't the greatest idea?

Hmm....

 

[BigCat]

So you can't conceal a long gun?

 

[Hedrin]

Man Caught Trying To Stuff Rifle In His Pants At Pawn Shop

 

[Quartermaster]

So you can't conceal a long gun?

Not in Oregon, no.

 

[Max713]

Not in Oregon, no.

Although it is my understand that you can legally conceal a long gun in a vehicle during transport... I.E. in a gun case in the back seat.

 

[Quartermaster]

Although it is my understand that you can legally conceal a long gun in a vehicle during transport... I.E. in a gun case in the back seat.

What law or statute does your understanding come from? I cited mine.

 

[nwslopoke]

Interesting since I was under the belief with a Oregon carry permit I could pass through Portland (PDX) with loaded AR mags on my way to the English Pit. Without a permit, loaded mags in the city were prohibited. I'm at work now but will have to take another look tonight.

 

[Max713]

What law or statute does your understanding come from? I cited mine.

Here's one, I'm hunting for the particular website with the ORS actually listed...
FAQ's. A Gun Owner's Guide In The Beaver State.

 

[Max713]

Here's one, I'm hunting for the particular website with the ORS actually listed...
FAQ's. A Gun Owner's Guide In The Beaver State.

After re-reading my own link, it looks like it only references carrying a loaded rifle in your vehicle (which is legal), it doesn't reference a concealed rifle... Now I have to do some more digging...

 

[NWGlockgal]

Man Caught Trying To Stuff Rifle In His Pants At Pawn Shop

Is that an AR in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?
Seriously, where was the counter person the whole time?

 

[pchewn]

The law seems pretty clear to me:

A CHL allows a person to conceal any legal loaded firearm they can carry. (Handguns, rifles, shotguns)
A CHL allows a person to transport loaded handguns in their car.

Otherwise, these are prohibited. (For non-CHL persons)

 

[Quartermaster]

The law seems pretty clear to me:

A CHL allows a person to conceal any legal loaded firearm they can carry. (Handguns, rifles, shotguns)
A CHL allows a person to transport loaded handguns in their car.

Otherwise, these are prohibited. (For non-CHL persons)

Not true. ORS 166.260 - Persons not affected by ORS 166.250 - 2015 Oregon Revised Statutes
ORS166.260(1)(i) specifically says the exception for CHL holders is in the concealment of handguns. You can NOT legally carry a concealed rifle, or shotgun. Having a cased rifle in the back of your car isn't considered concealed unless it's loaded. Having loaded mags in the same case while claiming to be heading to the range would still be iffy. You want to be made example of by our unelected governor? Go right ahead, but the "clarity" of the law to you is not what the law says.

 

[PaulB47]

So you can't conceal a long gun?

Of course you can. It's just that the law, as usual, violates common sense in the matter, and that government is dangerous to ordinary, reasonable people. Nothing new there...

 

[pchewn]

The exception to the laws against concealing (any) gun says:

A person who is licensed under ORS 166.291 (Issuance of concealed handgun license) and 166.292 (Procedure for issuing) to carry a concealed handgun.
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So the exception is for the person who is licensed and is not limited to handguns.