Chaos at the range

[TTSX]

"Not my type", now I get it.

Get what?

 

[Flymph]

It's all about encouraging engagement and this thread has done that.

Maybe Wired didn't do those guys at the range a favor, but he has certainly us for our entertainment!

 

[gmerkt]

A couple days ago I was putting in my hearing aids and heard it was raining on a tarp outside. I couldn't hear the rain without the hearing aids.

I've got that going here. Without my VA hearing aids in, I can't hear the button press tones of the microwave oven when I'm standing one foot in front of it.

However bad it is to have hearing loss, I take the good with the bad. There have been times when hearing loss has been a decided advantage. Like when you are around irritating people. Plus you can always fall back on it if you want to refute having been told something.

Tinnitus is a thing for me, but strangely enough it becomes minimized when I'm wearing the hearing aids. The VA techs have told me this is common. Maybe for the kinds of things I hear, anyway.

I've got some of those electronic hearing protector muffs, I take out my hearing aids when I wear them. The amplification is good enough that I can hear better than I can without anything.

 

[gmerkt]

When I used to go down to Carson City, Nevada, I would stop at the city owned range east of town near the dump. It's a pretty nice facility, but when I was there, it was not regulated. Or should I say, it was self regulated. I used to be an RSO in Wash., so on my visits I just assumed the role at Carson City in the interests of self preservation. Nobody objected. I've visited the city website lately and I now see that RSO's on are duty at that range when it's open. Good idea. Somebody at the city offices must've thought of the idea of liability. Oh, it used to be free, now it costs $5.

 

[arakboss]

You know what would fix this:


A well regulated shooting range, being necessary to the protection of people's safety, the responsibility of the people to keep and bear hearing protection, shall not be ignored.

 

[OldBroad44]

I thought Communists were supposed to be thin?

Its the people ruled by the commies and their slaves that are thin. All commies seem to have slaves. Though others too. Such as Germany and Japan in WWIi.

 

[fathertime74]

The limit of your responsibility at any range is to assure the safety of everyone.

I'm going to the rage on Saturday. Should I begin letting folks know that the range will be hot, on Saturday?

 

[ilikegunspdx]

I'm going to the rage on Saturday. Should I begin letting folks know that the range will be hot, on Saturday?

I think some folks are not going to pay any attention until the gun goes off and they say "what you trying to do to me?". It doesn't matter what or when you say it for some folks. Have to do your duty for rules of the range and normal courtesy but to try to go beyond that so that everyone is prepared for everything is not realistic for some folks, no matter how many times you say it or when.

 

[arakboss]

I'm going to the rage on Saturday. Should I begin letting folks know that the range will be hot, on Saturday?

Probably should let them know by Thursday at the latest.

 

[TTSX]

Probably should let them know by Thursday at the latest.

15 day wait is just a common courtesy

 

[Certaindeaf]

This kinda of stereotypes......

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I always look at the bright side because that's where the door is.

 

[WillametteWill]

13 pages in under 24 hours and it's not even a political or covid thread...impressive!

and,

This might be the best word-only meme in the history of the internet.

Signed,

Sven
Malmö, Sweden
International Assoc. AIA, LEED

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Just tossing this out as something to consider....

When out and about doing anything with firearms....
What you say and do is not only representing you...but representing all firearm owners.

Very similar to what is posted here on NWFA...
Like it or not...what you post...will be seen as how all NWFA members think and act.

We get lots of visitors here at NWFA....and this is a thread that they will see.

Now the above is not to say that you need to conform...or roll over...or be someone or something that you are not.
I am just saying that your actions...your words will have impact on yourself and others...and may not always be to yours or others betterment.

And while a whole group should not be judged by the actions of an individual or a group of individuals ...that happens...all the damn time.
Andy

 

[Bobbygun]

I'm going to the rage on Saturday.

You win! Of all the thread drifts, you going to a rage on Saturday and managing to tie it in firearms has to be the Mother of all Drifts. And in this thread, that's saying something, because there have been drifts 'o plenty.

 

[Spitpatch]

I've got to confess, I'm really not sure what you're saying here.

To clarify my comments, I think someone who needs a 6-hour orientation should attend a beginner's firearms class and get some training that way instead. The orientation I attended was nowhere near 6 hours, but was still tedious. When they got to the part where you couldn't shoot your pistol rapid fire, my eyes rolled back in my head. I decided to continue doing what I was doing before, shooting on BLM or the national forest lands instead. Since then, I've read numerous accounts (many on this forum) of overzealous range officers, which only reinforced my decision.

To be fair, I have been to that club as a guest at their shotgun range a couple of years ago and had a very enjoyable day.

You were right on. My post was in agreement to your questions regarding gathering more into the fold. Anything tedious or boring is detrimental. Range orientation can be done creatively and energetically.

As to over-zealous Range Officers, most usually the onerous ones are of a type we've all seen (in other environments) before: Lacking control in numerous aspects of their lives, granted a measure of authority over others they believe grants them permission to be over-bearing and draconian when wearing the Range Officer hat.

In a workplace, this is the brown-noser who caught the (brown) eye of a Manager, and (for the first time in their life) is placed "in charge", when work skills and people skills are less than adequate for it, and everybody in the workplace knows it.

It's even here at NWFA when some Moderators step outside the boundaries of preserving the integrity of the website in favor of personal conflicts, taking action to insulate themselves from any challenge. They are so wrapped up in their "power", they can't even recognize when someone makes fun of them for it. (It's the very best thing we can do for them, but it doesn't work to modify their behavior: they're oblivious.) Stark contrast to the Moderators that keep their eye on the ball, taking care of the important business, and finding very little need to exert any form of "authority" to do so.

At the range, the workplace or NWFA, authority is most effective when it is never openly exhibited or expressed. Good leaders don't have to. A good Range Officer conducts himself as an assistant to the shooters present, not a Hall Monitor or Drill Sergeant. This makes him a sorely needed evangelist for the sport, and even a Rectum whose Mama didn't love him and can't wait to "Dump a Mag" might someday take a pointer or two.

 

[Mikej]

At the range, the workplace or NWFA, authority is most effective when it is never openly exhibited or expressed. Good leaders don't have to. A good Range Officer conducts himself as an assistant to the shooters present, not a Hall Monitor or Drill Sergeant. This makes him a sorely needed evangelist for the sport, and even a Rectum whose Mama didn't love him and can't wait to "Dump a Mag" might someday take a pointer or two.

Smart Man ^^^.

 

[wired]

This makes him a sorely needed evangelist for the sport, and even a Rectum whose Mama didn't love him and can't wait to "Dump a Mag" might someday take a pointer or two.

No one wants to be evangelized on at the range. A RSO is there to make sure no one does something stupid like sit there with no hearing protection after a range has been called hot. As far as sitting through a 6 hour course to be able to use a range where you get evangelized on yeah, no thanks. Also you do realize theres a whole class of shooters who dont want to put nice clean holes in paper but are there to dump mags, right? They spend Sh!t tons of money on machineguns and ammo for a reason. I get the feeling your fudd range wouldn't be a welcoming place for that sort of activity.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Several posts here in this thread are less than excellent...most in regards to name calling.
Locking the thread.
Andy