But it's not a Colt.

[Longwalkhome]

To further muddy the waters the only gun made as a Colt 45 was a revolver.

A lot of copies of those Colts too.

 

[kopcicle]

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And malt liquor.

Just sayin.

Only you. Don't ever change.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Only you. Don't ever change.

I feel like the advertising jingle had " dynamite taste" in the lyrics.
Could be I made that up


Edit. Yup, dynamite taste. No idea why that would be a good thing.

 

[Kruel J]

Let me know when we start talking about how much better 9mm is than .45.

 

[Alexx1401]

Colt started business in 1837 so I imagine in all those years that some Colts were not up to par. Smith&wesson didn't start until 1852 and they too had some rough guns they put out. When Bangor Punta owned Smith the Smith quality really suffered.

Series 70s were pretty good Colts except for the finger style barrel bushing, it broke too often. I ran a Colt series 70 in the IPSC matches for years and it never broke.

The "problem" with the one I got and MANY others got had nothing to do with the design of the 70 Series. It was lack of QC. Colt, like several other large companies, had some "rough spots" over time when changing hands. From the time mass manufacturing came to be there was one very important part. Quality Control. Problem is this is a department that to bean counters does not make money, it costs money. So often when someone is trying to squeeze extra profit they try to skimp on QC. It ALWAYS leads to problems. You can take an excellent design, like the 1911, and turn out lots of great ones. Skimp on QC and soon some REALLY bad ones slip out the door. Had nothing to do with the design. Many here were not around or aware of when our auto makers got their butt's handed to them by Japan. Guy named Deming came up with a way to mass manufacture stuff and make VERY good quality. Detroit told him they were not interested. So he went to Japan who was. By the time Detroit was really getting hurt it was almost too late. You can have a great reputation for decades. Spend a couple years cranking out crap and it can take decades to get over the damage done. Colt, Ruger, the big 3 auto makes, and many others found this out the hard way.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Let me know when we start talking about how much better 9mm is than .45.

It's not better. It's more gooder.

 

[Longwalkhome]

The "problem" with the one I got and MANY others got had nothing to do with the design of the 70 Series. It was lack of QC. Colt, like several other large companies, had some "rough spots" over time when changing hands. From the time mass manufacturing came to be there was one very important part. Quality Control. Problem is this is a department that to bean counters does not make money, it costs money. So often when someone is trying to squeeze extra profit they try to skimp on QC. It ALWAYS leads to problems. You can take an excellent design, like the 1911, and turn out lots of great ones. Skimp on QC and soon some REALLY bad ones slip out the door. Had nothing to do with the design. Many here were not around or aware of when our auto makers got their butt's handed to them by Japan. Guy named Deming came up with a way to mass manufacture stuff and make VERY good quality. Detroit told him they were not interested. So he went to Japan who was. By the time Detroit was really getting hurt it was almost too late. You can have a great reputation for decades. Spend a couple years cranking out crap and it can take decades to get over the damage done. Colt, Ruger, the big 3 auto makes, and many others found this out the hard way.

"In 1985, Colt's workers, members of the United Auto Workers went on strike for higher wages. This strike would ultimately last for five years, and was one of the longest-running labor strikes in American history.[59]​ With replacement workers running production, the quality of Colt's firearms began to decline. Dissatisfied with Colt's production, in 1988 the U.S. military awarded the contract for future M16 production to Fabrique Nationale. The strike finally ended when an agreement was reached on 22 March 1990.[60]"​

 

[Longwalkhome]

Colt the company is a great deal like America itself, it had some really great days but the management turned crummy and the help didn't care about the company. Like Colt we are being sold out to foreigners.

Get a piece of real American history while you can.

 

[Cerberus Group]

Soooo....
A Colt 1911A1 is the same as Remington Rand 1911A1 other than the markings....

In any event...I also enjoy my original Colt series '70....with that said...own , shoot and enjoy what you like.
Andy

The tooling is Colt...if I recall correctly.

Same for the Argentine models...Colt tooling from 1927, but made in the 50s

 

[Knobgoblin]

The tooling is Colt...if I recall correctly.

Same for the Argentine models...Colt tooling from 1927, but made in the 50s

I like my "sistema" .45

 

[CLT65]

My Colt doesn't say "1911" on it anywhere; it only says "Government Model". Is that good enough?

 

[Alexx1401]

"In 1985, Colt's workers, members of the United Auto Workers went on strike for higher wages. This strike would ultimately last for five years, and was one of the longest-running labor strikes in American history.[59]​ With replacement workers running production, the quality of Colt's firearms began to decline. Dissatisfied with Colt's production, in 1988 the U.S. military awarded the contract for future M16 production to Fabrique Nationale. The strike finally ended when an agreement was reached on 22 March 1990.[60]"​

Yep, let some bad stuff out the door too often and it can take MANY years to get customers to trust you again. One of the big guys from the big 3 auto makers talked about that one time. It was when they started making cars here and in Japan. One model was made in Japan but they slapped a US label on it. Exact same car with a Jap label. People were buying the Jap label and refusing to buy the US label. Having no idea it was the same car. People get burned they can have long memories and tell anyone who they know to avoid that brand. Many seem to sadly never learn though.

 

[Alexx1401]

Colt the company is a great deal like America itself, it had some really great days but the management turned crummy and the help didn't care about the company. Like Colt we are being sold out to foreigners.

Get a piece of real American history while you can.

Sadly "work ethic" has long become a dirty word here.
So many now just do not care. Really sad to see it happening. When some company has management that only cares about short term profit and has some workers who have no pride in what they do? Perfect storm to make some real problems.

 

[nammac]

Perfection.View attachment 1429431

Finally Perfection!

 

[nammac]

Colt the company is a great deal like America itself, it had some really great days but the management turned crummy and the help didn't care about the company. Like Colt we are being sold out to foreigners.

Get a piece of real American history while you can.

Like me some Colt (middle)…. And some Norinco (top)…. And some Citadel (bottom)…

 

[2506]

Sadly "work ethic" has long become a dirty word here.
So many now just do not care. Really sad to see it happening. When some company has management that only cares about short term profit and has some workers who have no pride in what they do? Perfect storm to make some real problems.

Don't even get me started on what happens when private equity gets involved. See Remington.

 

[Stomper]

What is a 1911?

It is a year….. that will live in infamy!

 

[nammac]

1911

1911A1

 

[Knobgoblin]

2011



"These go to 11 "

 

[solv3nt]

Let me know when we start talking about how much better 9mm is than .45.

Why would we talk about an old, antiquated round?