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Attention! All Marion County CHL holders!

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by dragonsden73, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. dragonsden73

    dragonsden73 Salem, Oregun Active Member

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  2. SquackDaddy

    SquackDaddy Marion County Member

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    Thanks for the head's up! Done and done!
     
  3. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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    Benton county did that a while back I filled it out when I renewed mine.
     
  4. simpleguy

    simpleguy Clackamas Active Member

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    Clackamas county did the same thing, thankful for that.
     
  5. Abiqua

    Abiqua Oregon Active Member

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    Done. Thanks!
     
  6. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Multnoma County also did it. They even sent the forms to my home in WA. When I renewed earlier this year they asked again.

    Deen
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  7. Karma

    Karma the woods in Oregon Active Member

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  8. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    Not trying to burst anyone's bubble, but those letters have absolutely no force in law. There was a ruling, I believe just this year that CHL info is public info. The Sheriff down in Medford tried to withhold the info from the newspaper there and it was ruled (can't remember which court) that it was public info. There was an attempt because of this last year to get a law passed in the Oregon legislature to make CHL info priviate, but it died in committee.

    If they're gathering the signatures as a means of showing CHL holders desire to make that info private in preparation for getting legislation submitted next year that is one thing, but for now there's not much we can do about it.
     
  9. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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    Wasnt it only if subpoena'd by a court though?
     
  10. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe so. I believe it was the Medford Star Tribune that was the plaintiff in the case. There was another thread about it here recently. I believe the court determined that it was public info that anyone could request.

    Anybody that has any more specific info about this feel free to chime in.
     
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    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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  12. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. So it looks like the burden is on us to provide a reason the data should not be disclosed. So you could say "I fear that I would be targeted by burglars" and the county could then say they don't think that is a valid or specific enough reason not to disclose your CHL info. At least that is the way I read it.

    WONDERFUL!
     
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    theorren Medford Member

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    It was the Mail Tribune that sued for the information.

    The sheriff had Jackson County CCW holders fill out a form stating they wanted their information to be kept private. I think that he lost because he was not able to prove that there was an individual cause or the like to keep them private. I'm not sure if the court will allow those that filled out the form to be kept private.

    I posted on this a while back , but here's another article about it.

    Jackson County Sheriff must release list of concealed weapons permit holders, Oregon Court of Appeals rules | OregonLive.com

     
  14. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, theorren. I remember seeing that a while back here, but couldn't find it. I hope the proposed bill to protect CHL holders info that never made it out of committee this last legislative session comes up again in next year's legislative session.
     
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    armedredneck Oregon Active Member

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    Thanks for the info. Done. I think you guys are right though. I'm pretty sure it's only a petition to show our desire to have that info kept private. Why would a paper want that info anyway? Can I now count on some annoying reporter camping out on my lawn and demanding I explain my "right" and justifications to carry concealed? I can only see this being used to paint us in a negative light and to show "what kind of people" CHL holders are.

    It's like they say. When the tornado hits, they always find the most ignorant guy in the trailer park to interview on the tv news. They'll use the same tactic here.
     
  16. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    :laugh: That's funny! Having grown up in Tornado Alley and seen more tornados up close than I ever care to see again you are spot on. We used to call trailer parks "tornado magnets".
     
  17. Hawaiian

    Hawaiian Tigard Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The Washington county Sheriff had all CHL holder sign his form last year and even after the recent court ruling, their newsletter states that he does not intend to release the identity of those who did sign.
     
  18. ZeroRing

    ZeroRing 26th District, WA Active Member

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    Ooooo.... now THERE is something for your lawyer to hit them with when you DO get targeted!

    You see your honor, I have never been a victim of burglary until my name was released against my wishes so I feel the county (and whomever "requested" the names be released) is a direct accessory in the recent robbery I was a victim of. :paranoid: :thumbup:
     
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    Searcher451 Oregon Member

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    Not sure how much good this will do; I received this in an email yesterday afternoon:

    Oregon Firearms Federation
    PO Box 556
    Canby, OR 97013

    Voice: (503) 263-5830

    Oregon Firearms Federation


    MORE MUCKRAKERS PILE ON

    A "reporter" for the Salem "Statesman Journal" is demanding ALL information of concealed handgun license holders.

    Stacey Barchenger has contacted several sheriffs demanding "information about all people with concealed handgun licenses in Marion County, including all fields that are part of the CHL applications." (Emphasis added.)

    This particular demand makes it clear that Barchenger is seeking not only names, addresses, phone numbers and references, but also the social security numbers of any license holder who disclosed it.

    In Barchenger's demand letter, she says "Please understand that we seek these records for the purposes of public interest, and we hope that the spirit of openness in Oregon government will prevail." However Barchenger has refused to disclose the reason for the demand, and while making her demands "in the spirit of openness," doesn't even allow people to see the contents of her "twitter" page.

    Most sheriffs are making good faith efforts to protect the privacy of license holders, but like hyenas in a feeding frenzy, we fully expect the "press" to use the recent court decision in Jackson County as an excuse to divulge sensitive information.

    It's essential that we do all we can to make sure legislation is passed in 2011 to guarantee the privacy of CHL holders. In the meantime we suggest that you contact Barchenger and let her know that having a CHL does not make a person newsworthy and that you expect to have your privacy respected.

    Stacey Barchenger
    Statesman Journal
    280 NE Church St.
    Salem, OR 97301
    503-399-6610
    sbarchenge@statesmanjournal.com


    This is my response to this;
    Greetings Stacey
    It is my understanding that you want some information about me and so you don't have to ask anyone else, my name is; Donald James Jacobe I reside at 1165 Cordon Rd NE, Marion County, Salem, OR, my zip code is 97317, my phone number is 503 362-0584 and I do have an Oregon Concealed Handgun License. Now that I have shared with you I expect you to do the same to me. If there is any other information that you wish, please, feel free to contact me and we may exchange what every information you need face to face.
    Cogito, ergo armatum sum

    Stay Safe

    Jim

    Jim's Jacobe Firearms/Self-Defense and Use of Force Instructor homepage
     
  20. armedredneck

    armedredneck Oregon Active Member

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    This really grinds my gears. I will be giving her a call. I'm going to have to wait a few days until I cool off so I don't say something that will paint CHL holders in a bad light, however, I do wish to express my outrage. I have noted your answer above. Anyone have any other suggestions on what I should say? Input from the forum community would be appreciated.