National ATF Suppressor Rule

[jdtaylor45]

Hey, I was reading that the DOJ along with a new ATF ruling has stated that suppressors are no longer considered a "firearm" and therefore not regulated by the ATF. My question is, when can we forgo the tax and the ATF paperwork?

Unanimous Decision Denies Stripping ATF & NFA of Power To Regulate Suppressors! DOJ Responds! (Video) – The Washington Standard

In this video, Armed Scholar breaks down a recent decision finding suppressors are not protected under the Second Amendment despite recent Supreme Court decisions! But now the DOJ has changed course! Article posted with permission from Guns in the News Buy All-American! Bring health and...

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[ilikegunspdx]

Armed scholar is a lying POS.

 

[gearhead]

Hey, I was reading that the DOJ along with a new ATF ruling has stated that suppressors are no longer considered a "firearm" and therefore not regulated by the ATF. My question is, when can we forgo the tax and the ATF paperwork?

Unanimous Decision Denies Stripping ATF & NFA of Power To Regulate Suppressors! DOJ Responds! (Video) – The Washington Standard

In this video, Armed Scholar breaks down a recent decision finding suppressors are not protected under the Second Amendment despite recent Supreme Court decisions! But now the DOJ has changed course! Article posted with permission from Guns in the News Buy All-American! Bring health and...

thewashingtonstandard.com

I remember my first wet dream…..

 

[TTSX]

They'll never give up that cash cow. Never.

 

[kmk1012]

Armed scholar is a lying POS.

He's all about clickbait and boy does he get a lot of them. When I'm on YouTube I wish we could block these people like we can block or be blocked here.

 

[CamoDeafie]

He's all about clickbait and boy does he get a lot of them. When I'm on YouTube I wish we could block these people like we can block or be blocked here.

You can?edit, maybe only if you've YT Premium. My wife is able to block channels?

 

[kmk1012]

You can?edit, maybe only if you've YT Premium. My wife is able to block channels?

No premium here, I'm cheap and refuse to pay for TV. We stream the litttle bit of TV we watch. Kids don't get to watch much TV daily unless we do a family movie night and fire up the surround sound. Heck, I don't even have a YT account, I can't subscribe or like a video, I'm stuck in the dark ages.

 

[cfSilent]

You don't need premium to block the channel, but would need at least a free account so it can remember you settings. Not sure about on mobile, but on desktop you can click the little three dots icon next to the video title where it's suggesting the video and you can select "Don't recommend channel."

 

[huynh0311]

false!

 

[CamoDeafie]

Here's what we do know to be true.

The DOJ argued that suppressors are not firearms, that they're accessories and not protected by the 2A.

Then the DOJ apparently withdrew that position and said "we need 30 days to review our positions in the light of recent EOs and blah blah blah"? (On Friday? )

And now..?

 

[Local Loader]

I think the thing to keep in mind is that, if they lose protection status than it becomes an item that can be targeted for being restricted or banned. I know this sounds pessimistic, but if recent history has taught us anything, it's that if they can go after it to try and take it away, they will. They'll do so under the same guise that they use for trying to take or reduce available mags "public interest", "safety of the public", "it's an unusual and dangerous item" or "we're doing it to protect the children" short list of their favorite excuses they use.

 

[CamoDeafie]

I think the thing to keep in mind is that, if they lose protection status than it becomes an item that can be targeted for being restricted or banned. I know this sounds pessimistic, but if recent history has taught us anything, it's that if they can go after it to try and take it away, they will. They'll do so under the same guise that they use for trying to take or reduce available mags "public interest", "safety of the public", "it's an unusual and dangerous item" or "we're doing it to protect the children" short list of their favorite excuses they use.

The issue is that the suppressors are already defined as "firearms" under 1934 NFA and 1968 GCA. Along with "parts" for Machine Guns (seems specifically the auto sear and lower receiver with third holes or drop in auto sears)

Edit. NFA and the GCA updates does say things under NFA are "dangerous and unusual"; there are bills to remove suppressors from the NFA in Congress; however they have the barrier of the Joint Committee on Finance (Senate Committee on Taxation and House Ways and Means).

 

[Glizzy Goblin]

 

[Local Loader]

The issue is that the suppressors are already defined as "firearms" under 1934 NFA and 1968 GCA. Along with "parts" for Machine Guns (seems specifically the auto sear and lower receiver with third holes or drop in auto sears)

Yes, but the problem is, if they are reclassified as an "accessory" than they lose protections as a "firearm" it can't be both. If it becomes an accessory they will go after it, they've been trying to for over a decade to ban them outright and this may give them the opportunity they have been waiting for to do it.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Currently you can get approved for a suppressor in a few days.

They are getting cheaper thanks to companies like B&t and some others who don't ask outrageous prices.

Technology is advancing very rapidly due to flow through designs and 3d printing of various metals such as titanium and inconel.

So don't worry about it and buy what you need and enjoy shooting suppressed. Or if you don't want to buy with a stamp then don't buy them. You aren't going to solve the conflicting definitions/designations by federal agencies. 2 cents

 

[The Heretic]

Here's what we do know to be true.

The DOJ argued that suppressors are not firearms, that they're accessories and not protected by the 2A.

Then the DOJ apparently withdrew that position and said "we need 30 days to review our positions in the light of recent EOs and blah blah blah"? (On Friday? )

And now..?

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/politics/gun-silencers-doj/index.html

 

[add9mm]

I thought this was posted for April fools