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Army Beretta M9 Replacement?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Molon Labe, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. Molon Labe

    Molon Labe Albany Oregon Area New Member

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    The army has been rumored for some time now to be considering a replacement for their traditional Beretta M9. I thought it would be fun to see what pistol, if any, everyone thinks should replace the M9 in combat. The M9 has had its problems over the years and in my opinion is any thing but the ideal side arm to take into combat. Not that the M9 is a bad weapon but I just think their are better options. To get the ball rolling I personally think that if the M9 is replaced it should either be replaced with a SIG p226 9mm or a SIG p227 .45 ACP depending on what caliber they are looking for. Sig was a top contender the first time the military was looking for a sidearm but in my humble opinion got gipped. So what do you think?

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  2. chariot13

    chariot13 Near Eugene/Springfield Well-Known Member

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    FN or HK
     
  3. Skang

    Skang WA Well-Known Member

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  4. gehrheart

    gehrheart fidalgo island Well-Known Member

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    The sig would be a great choice.
    Big fan of the XD myself so will have to put that out there as well.
     
  5. gehrheart

    gehrheart fidalgo island Well-Known Member

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    Or go back to the best and reissue the 1911!!!
     
  6. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

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    The beretta was adopted as the M9 and the Sig 228 was adopted as the M11. The M11 was too expensive for general issue and used for specialized units (worked with CID).

    If there is going to be a replacement I am thinking the Glock 17 to stay aligned with our British allies.

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  7. 2Wheels4Ever

    2Wheels4Ever Central Oregon Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer

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    I would go with the fnx .45. Big capacity, big stopping power.
     
  8. Pandaz3

    Pandaz3 Cornelius, Oregon NRA Lifetime Member Platinum Supporter Gold Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The NATO Ammo standard is 9MM, as is 7.62 and 5.56. I don't think the M-9 is bad for a 9MM myself, but most were issued in the late 1980's. If they stay with 9MM is the plan then I would merely buy a small order to replace a small portion of the inventory and then send the old ones to the factory for refurbishment (Some would need more than others) and then use those to continue the exchanges until everything is new or refurbished to like new. I think a military sidearm should have first round double action capability.
     
  9. Misterbill

    Misterbill Yakima County, Washington New Member

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    I've known a few operator types who've gone back to the sandbox as contractors. EVERY single one of them took a Glock.

    Unless you're doing some kind of spec-ops thing, your pistol is a last-ditch weapon. It would seem to me that what you really want, over everything else, is reliability. I'm not a Glock fanboy by any means, but if reliability is your main criteria, I'm not aware of anything that beats them.
     
  10. James 61

    James 61 Clark Co Washington Member

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    Most likely to be another 9mm pistol. Lots of contenders out there but Glock is a likely choice even though I think there are better choices out there. The one thing a military pistol has to do is fit a very large variety of hands from small dainty hands on a women to large ape paws. I think something like the HK P30 with its ability to change both the backstrap and side panels would be a far better choice but ultimately cost will be a major driving factor on what gets selected.
     
  11. Blaylocke

    Blaylocke Lewis County Active Member

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    M&P. Easier to import, wide availability.

    And also; America- F yeah.
     
  12. kumabear17

    kumabear17 Issaquah Active Member

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    Yes the contractors for the most part carry a Glock 17 or 19, but I think there are quite a few who would rather carry something in a .45. I think there may be some specialized units carrying H7K .45's who are real happy with them.
     
  13. biggie24420

    biggie24420 Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    My first choice would be a Glock. Second choice would be a smith m&p.
     
  14. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Something to keep in mind is the logistics. Many modern pistols are modular, armorer serviced guns, but perhaps none more so than the Glock. Fire control parts, slides, frames, and barrels can all be swapped out in short time. Also, a well trained monkey can do the swapping, so getting large numbers of people trained up is not only fast, but cheap as well...

    There may be better guns, but I doubt there are very many that are as reliable, cheap, and easy to work on as Glocks. Don't mean to be a fan-boy, but that's just the way it is...
     
  15. Scott

    Scott Battle Ground Well-Known Member

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    I carried a lot of guns in the service and they varied depending where I was and what I was doing.

    I love the Beretta and I believe it will continue to stay that way. I have used them in all conditions and they always perform.

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  16. Boats

    Boats Flicking A Switch To Open My Third Eye Well-Known Member

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    This type of pointless thread comes up all of the time.

    The M9 won't be replaced any time soon, especially with the DoD still buying them in their hundreds of thousands.

    Most SIG fans don't even realize that the XM9 trials had to be modified to keep the SIG P226 from being disqualified and leave the Beretta 92F as the only competitor in the trials. The SIG samples badly failed one of the two mud tests that both the 92F samples and the control 1911A1s passed easily.

    The Big Army will never adopt a ND machine like the Glock. The safety that is sometimes retrofitted to G-thangs is also right hand only, which isn't going to cut it anymore in an era where complete ambidexterity is the current state of the art.