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Got one of those too. Problem is suppressing one is harder than AR. Not to mention this caliber in an AR has so many advantages. Sure it has its shortcomings like anything else; but, the relatively cheap price of 7.62 when compared to 5.56, way better ergonomics, modularity, and ease of suppression are just a few of the reasons I've transitioned to 7.62x39 in this drought. I'm hardly disappointed with mine.Buy an AK if you want a 7.62x39. I wouldn't waist time or money to be disappointed with the end result.
Agreed, suppressing it is the main reason I built my 7.62x39 AR as opposed to an AK. A YHM Ti-Phantom QD nicely tames it's bark. About 2k rounds so far, with the tweaking I mentioned in an earlier post with springs and firing pin it still runs like a champ.Got one of those too. Problem is suppressing one is harder than AR. Not to mention this caliber in an AR has so many advantages. Sure it has its shortcomings like anything else; but, the relatively cheap price of 7.62 when compared to 5.56, way better ergonomics, modularity, and ease of suppression are just a few of the reasons I've transitioned to 7.62x39 in this drought. I'm hardly disappointed with mine.
I put all the Q stuff on my cans including my Saker. It's really hard not to smile when you shoot it. It's gets even better shooting subs through my octane45. It's the poor man's 300BO.Agreed, suppressing it is the main reason I built my 7.62x39 AR as opposed to an AK. A YHM Ti-Phantom QD nicely tames it's bark. About 2k rounds so far, with the tweaking I mentioned in an earlier post with springs and firing pin it still runs like a champ.
That's understandable. The first AR I built was a 7.62x39. Needless to say I didn't keep it long. Sold the upper and went to a 300 black out. And bought an Arsenal SLR107. If I am running a 30 cal suppressed through an AR platform I am going to go with the blackout. But I understand the climate and needing to be able to shoot what is available. Good luck with whatever you end up doing.Got one of those too. Problem is suppressing one is harder than AR. Not to mention this caliber in an AR has so many advantages. Sure it has its shortcomings like anything else; but, the relatively cheap price of 7.62 when compared to 5.56, way better ergonomics, modularity, and ease of suppression are just a few of the reasons I've transitioned to 7.62x39 in this drought. I'm hardly disappointed with mine.
6.5 Grendel?The only thing that's wrong with the AR is the caliber they chose, It should have been about a .250 or a .264 diameter bullet about 90 to 110 grains.
And I don't doubt someone has made a wildcat of that size already.......
For the 7.62x39, I spent some more time on. I got a good deal on a 10.5" barrel, and bought a 7.62x39 BCG. Also bought a enhanced firing pin, for harder primers, and a Wolff extra power hammer spring. Had some reliability issues with cycling, but after tinkering with it finally got it work, mostly.
All in all it was fun to tinker with, but I would never trust them personably for anything other than a toy. I've decided I still want something in 7.62 and 5.45, but I want to spend the extra on a AK platform.
Seems to me 5.45 x 39 would be just fine in the platform, but running 7.62 x 39 you are going to have a hard challenge finding reliable magazines to feed it because of the straight walls in the magazine well, plus the bolt face is honed out for the larger shell casing base that makes the bolt lugs more delicate.
IMHO- I'd give the 7.62 x 39 a pass in the AR15 platform, unless you went with the "AR-47" lower that runs true AK mags.
I actually have a Grendel! Have not shot it yet... I have AKM as well but was thinking about building one in the AR platform. Just want to also have a 545 rifle but trying to get one is almost impossible and when I did find one the price was ridiculous.6.5 Grendel?
6.5 Grendel?
Can't afford the second mortgage to shoot 300 Blackout right now.That's understandable. The first AR I built was a 7.62x39. Needless to say I didn't keep it long. Sold the upper and went to a 300 black out. And bought an Arsenal SLR107. If I am running a 30 cal suppressed through an AR platform I am going to go with the blackout. But I understand the climate and needing to be able to shoot what is available. Good luck with whatever you end up doing.
5.45 is way more fragile in the availability department. As for barrel life, its a fast bullet relatily. Expect it closer to a stee case .223 barrel life. ARs were never really meant for steel cased ammo like AKs are.5.45 and 7.62x39 seem to be the only somewhat affordable ammo available these days. Still researching buffer weights and gas blocks myself. Leaning more toward 7.62x39 as 5.45 parts tend to be harder to find. Some research suggests that 5.45 tends to burn through barrels quickly. Anyone with experience on 5.45 barrel life?
Slightly more forgiving but good luck finding mags. I've made AK74 mags to feed 5.56 in my Arsenal 106, and I can say that the reverse isn't doable. Can't make a 5.56 mag to feed 5.45.The extreme taper of the 7.62x39 cartridge necessitates a curved magazine (ie AK-47/AKM mags) for reliable feeding which is not conducive with the straight wall mag well of the AR receiver. The 5.45x39 isn't as drastic and more forgiving.
I tinkered around with a 5.45 and a 7.62 AR builds. Got some great deals on barrels so I thought I'd give it a try.
For the 5.45, I didn't do anything special other than 5.45 barrel (16") and 5.45 BGC (and mags). I think I got a bad barrel though, first round would always fail to extract and I'd have to hammer it out from the muzzle. Eventually just threw the barrel away and called it quits.
I had the same trouble with a recent AR-10 build, finally found the bolt needed adjusting, I finally replaced the bolt and now it works fine