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Bob Kramer is a friend of mine and I can tell you that he is a pretty special case when it comes to custom knife makers. Bob is one of the very, very few that has "made" it in any commercial sense and its as much for his business acumen as for his skill (he is insanely talented but there are lots of other knife makers just as skilled who dont have a 5 year waiting list for knives that fetch $1000 per inch of blade)