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Here's a video I made showing what I use... Anealeez at Annealeez |
Snip, you can research annealing at forum.accurateshooter.com and believe it or not at ampAnnealing.com the people who make AMP machines which are induction based.
There are torch machines like Benchsource and Giraud. where you use a compound called tempilac to adjust the flame and duration.
Salt bath machines but you will have to dig out info on those on your own.
and Induction machines. whether you build it on your own from a kit or buy it from AMP.
I recommend AMP mark II with Aztec mode. Aztec mode, named for the sacrifice of one case will provide you a setting for all the cases that match your sample. Very precise and makes shooting multiple calibers very easy.
Sacrifice? The aztec mode "Analyze" will heat a case beyond failure to determine the best settings for heat.
The AMP machine needs custom pilots that control the depth of the cartridge. Several vendors sell them.
I have pilots for .223, 6BR, 308, 300 WM, and even 338-378 Weatherby mag. For my competition rounds, I anneal after every firing to keep the brass soft so it can be resized, expanded, then fired. Some people have reported success with annealing every other firing. I prefer to maintain consistency. Annealing keeps the neck tension consistent and on magnum cases can prevent neck rupture or at least postpone it.
So why did I recommend checking out AMPannealingcom? They posted research on all the methods and provided it for all to consider. It is a college course in metallurgy.
AMP machines are expensive at $1395 plus $20-$30 for the pilots. I would just add that the classified section here at at forum.accurateshooter.com list machines for sale and they always sell fast.
Good luck
Yes you can automate the machine,So it seems like you're a happy Amp customer. Is there a way to automate the Amp machine?
Thanks for the reply. I was hoping to hear from users what was their experience with using the different types of annealing equipment. I take it you're a happy customer of Annealeaze. I really like the fully automated setup.
I can attest to that, but I do it by hand in low light on a mandrel turned by a drill motor.My weatherby brass is $5 per case and I was only getting 2 firings before the cases started cracking. Since annealing, the necks stay pliable
Essential if you are resizing brass to another caliber. For example, making 7mm-08 brass from 308 stock, or making wildcats. Neck turning and annealing are critical.Here's another factor to consider, neck turning, not trimming length but turning the neck on a mini lathe to reduce thickness. This is a step competition shooters do to make the thickness uniform or remove donuts from resizing/shaping wildcat brass.
I am not an old hand at annealing but there is no question properly annealed cases will yield better ES and SD's. I have set up and used two torch annealers in the last 6 months. Giraud and Benchsource. I found both will do a good job once you spend the time adjusting and testing. Giraud...high quality machine that once set will auto anneal several hundred cases in a short time. Uses a single torch like Annealeze and Mikes annealers. You do have to buy add wheels if you switch to cases that are bigger dia. (like a switch between 303 and Magnum cases). Benchsource usually uses two torches and must be feed by hand...about 12 at a time. Very high quality machine with great controls. I prefer the Benchsource because I believe the two torch system is more consistent and faster ... around 4.5 seconds depending on case. No need to buy more parts for other cases. I use a BBQ propane tank with dual hoses rather than the small propane bottles. There are very good u tube videos for all the machines. Benchsource is about $75 more than Giraud brand new I believe.
No question, if I had the money Whiskey Tahoe has, I'd be using an AMP. The best possible scenario would be to have Whiskey Tahoe just anneal our cases for a small fee. I'm sure he has a bit more time on his hands now.
I've decided to keep the Benchsource unit and sell my Giraud. Send me a PM if you want more detail.