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A letter from Jeff Kruse on 941

Discussion in 'Firearm Legislation & Activism' started by U201491, Apr 3, 2015.

  1. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    APRIL 3, 2015

    POLITICAL PAYBACK

    The main focus of this newsletter will be the current version of the gun background check bill (Senate Bill 941), but first a little recap of a couple of the measures we have passed that can only be described as political payback. First was the low carbon fuel standards bill that mostly benefits out of state “green energy” companies. The second was the re-write of common law on class action law suits which primarily benefits trial lawyers. The thing these two groups have in common is the fact they are heavy contributors to Democrat campaigns in Oregon.

    The way the gun bill can easily be connected is through the fact the Bloomberg group (the former billionaire mayor of New York City) contributed over $600,000 to Democrat campaigns in this last election, including $75,000 in one Senate race; and this group’s single issue is the banning of guns. With the results of the last election we knew these bills would be coming, because this was the reason for the financial support and, as a reminder, this also includes the Former Governor and his girlfriend.

    Now we will get to the bill itself and the political process. The way the process works is a bill is not available for anyone to see until it is “first read”, which is the point where it is submitted to the office of the Senate President or Speaker of the House and acknowledged in First Readings on the Floor of the appropriate Chamber. At that point it will be assigned to a committee and then it is up to the committee chair to decide whether or not to schedule the bill for a public hearing and potentially a work session, which is when the bill can potentially be amended and passed out of the committee. The bill will then be “second read” on the Floor which would set the stage for it to be “third read” the next day which would be when we would vote on it. There is no set time frame for when this can happen, for example the presiding officer can wait a long time to assign a bill to a committee and can also wait a long time to put a bill on the Second Reading calendar.

    Here was the track of SB 941. It was first read last Thursday (our first opportunity to see it) and was assigned to the Judiciary Committee the same day. The bill was then scheduled for a public hearing this Wednesday and a work session on Thursday. Because of the last minute amendments submitted on the bill the Chair decided to hold it over for a work session on Monday, but I doubt if he is going to make any significant changes to the bill.

    The public hearing Wednesday was actually embarrassing. When I was the chair of a committee I would always make sure members of the public who came to testify would be able to have their opportunity. In this case we had people who had driven in some cases up to 6 hours for the hearing and were either denied the opportunity or given just two minutes to testify. Meanwhile the Mayor of Portland and his group were given 15 minutes which actually stretched into close to 25 minutes. In fairness one pro-gun group was also given 15 minutes, but their time was not extended. It should be noted the only people who were denied happened to be those in opposition to the bill.

    This is a paraphrase of the dialog I had with the Mayor. He stated passage of this bill would greatly reduce gun violence in Portland. I pointed out the fact Chicago and Detroit already had such restrictions and it hadn’t reduced the violence in those cities. I then asked him to explain the discrepancy between his statement and the reality in these other cities. His response was there were a lot of other factors to consider, which was a total non-answer.

    The basic element of this bill has to do with private sales. For example, if I wanted to sell a gun to my neighbor we would be required to go to a gun store with the gun and submit to a background check, which with all of the fees involved would cost maybe fifty dollars and we would have to do this for every transaction. We are told this will go a long way towards keeping guns out of the hands of criminals, which is patently untrue. The reality is nothing in this bill would have stopped any of the high profile shootings over the last few years.

    If the goal of the bill really was to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, the chair would adopt the -8 amendments. This would be a very simple solution. It would require a designation on the back of driver’s license or ID card for anyone convicted of a felony, similar to what currently exists for a motorcycle endorsement. This would make it very simple to know if a person was eligible to purchase a gun by just checking their ID. It would also not impose unnecessary restrictions on honest people.

    This idea will be rejected because it will not help the majority party achieve their ultimate objective which is total gun registration. While they will deny this, it is easy to track what the next step will be. We will be told at a future date that we have no real way to know if people are complying with this new law and registration will be the only way we can know for sure. This is clearly what the Bloomberg group wants and just as clearly the majority party in Oregon is more than willing to let groups from New York dictate policy for campaign contributions.

    Elections do have consequences, and we are in the process of finding out just how far the Democrats are willing to go with their supermajority status. In the end all of this political payback will not be in the best interests of the majority of the people in this state. Because we really can’t stop anything, I want you all to be paying very close attention.

    Sincerely,

    Senator Jeff Kruse
     
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  2. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    For those of you who aren't aware, you can sign up for Senator Kruses' newsletter, regardless of the district in which you reside. He is a senior statesman and a straight shooter. He really does a good job of keeping the people informed in an easy to understand format.
     
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  3. Mr.B

    Mr.B Hippyville Active Member

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    Just got the same letter. At least there are some politicians that honor the oath they took.
     
  4. FortRock

    FortRock Bend/Salem, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Got the letter this morning. We need to re-call the criminal legislators responsible for this attack on the law-abiding.
     
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  5. RW-Ore

    RW-Ore Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Re-call is in the works.
     
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  6. wingspar

    wingspar Oregon Member

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    I get newsletters from all kinds of Oregon politicians and this one is the first one I can recall that talked about gun legislation. Sounds like he has his head on straight.

    I don’t understand his last line tho. “Because we really can’t stop anything, I want you all to be paying very close attention”. Because we really can't stop anything???
     
  7. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    Yes - Oregon voted in enough liberal Democrats to have complete control of the process and a Governor who will sign it. Jeff Kruse and the rest of legislators on our side can't stop it.

    It's up to us to apply the pressure needed to stop it, such as the recall project.
     
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  8. RW-Ore

    RW-Ore Oregon Well-Known Member

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    You cannot change anything if you don't get involved.
    The democrat's do not want you to have a vote they are ramming their bills through.
    Without your chance to vote they pass any bill they want into law.
     
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  9. RW-Ore

    RW-Ore Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The recall project is all well and good but it will not be in time to stop SB 941 we need to get it on a ballet for the people to vote yea or nay. After all it "is" for the people yes ?
    We need to think people , think how to battle this nasty piece of work.
     
  10. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    As noted in another thread, because it's declared an 'emergency' bill, it can't/won't go to the voters. That leaves us with few options outside of trying to change enough minds and getting them to vote against this bill. A threat of a potential recall may be a possible way of swaying some of those votes.
     
  11. Greenbug

    Greenbug Bend Well-Known Member

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    Who, and more importantly how did they declare this an "emergency" bill? Seems like this is the lynch pin on which this bill can be thwarted. Remove it's "emergency" status, then it will have to be voted on.
     
  12. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    There is not one small bit of it that is an emergency anything. That is BULLPUCKY and they need to be called to task for cheating the entire system by calling it an emergency bill. It makes emergency a NON WORD and an invalid term . Emergency means nothing anymore except to facilitate the Leftist scumbags in our legislature. STOP TAKING THIS CRAP !!! Scream out and storm them for a change.....................
    Discussion here doesn't do anything.
    Call and email and bury them in letters and make the rest of the reps that have any integrity stand up to this also.
    I am getting cauliflower ear from dialing them................
    JUST FING DO IT !!!
     
  13. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Here is an excerpt from an article by Bill Sizemore a while back:

    The Oregon Constitution states that a bill passed by the state legislature goes into effect 90 days after the end of the session in which it is adopted, except when the legislature declares an emergency. When the legislature attaches an emergency clause to a bill, that bill can go into effect sooner, and more importantly, cannot be referred to the voters via the referendum process. In other words, an emergency clause prevents the People of Oregon from vetoing a legislative Act.

    This is nothing new, and it gets abused on a pretty regular basis. If a legislator wants to push a bill through quickly and keep the voters out of the loop, they can simply declare and 'emergency', and there you go. Complete and total BS. Personally, I think it's time to get the emergency clause removed as a tool since it's clear that legislators are able to abuse it. Better yet, we go after everyone that votes for this "emergency" bill. Get recalls going all over the state.
     
  14. RW-Ore

    RW-Ore Oregon Well-Known Member

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    etrain16
    Sounds like you might have a plan ? how do we follow through on it.
     
  15. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Posted this in another thread, it has some bearing here as well about the need to get 2 Demorat votes, probably not possible but anyway..from Senator Doug Whitsett...

    The Second Amendment is the lynchpin of our United States Constitution. I have strongly opposed any infringement on that unalienable right, including any expansion of the mandatory state background check system. I will not change that firm stance.

    For the past four years, fourteen Senate Republicans and Senator Betsy Johnson (D) have maintained a 15 vote coalition that has prevented any anti-gun bills from moving through the state Senate. I was instrumental in establishing that coalition.

    Two of the fourteen Senate Republicans were defeated in the November 4th election. Although I will continue to strenuously oppose anti-gun laws, our coalition no longer has the votes in the Senate to stop or in any way alter their passage.

    May I suggest that you and fellow passionate defenders of the Second Amendment focus your attention on developing two more strong no votes from among the Senate Democrat Caucus?


    Best regards,


    Doug
     
  16. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    No more so than that of others here. I'm regularly contacting my senators, and eventually my reps too once this passes (assumed) the senate. I'm keeping a close eye on the recall thread that Bolus started to see where their efforts go, in the hopes that can be an effective tool against those that vote for this. I'm still new to a lot of this political stuff, but I'm keeping an open mind to see how I can help. I'm also talking to every Oregonian who will listen to help sway their future votes. The only thing I know for sure is that keeping quiet and not getting out to vote will only hurt our rights.
     
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  17. RW-Ore

    RW-Ore Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you etrain16 and I think your on the right track but , the recall movement will take some time SB 941 will fire through the senate and the house before you see any movement from the recall movement.
    Don't set back and wait for the recall to do all the work like I said I think your on the right track by doing your own thing and not waiting.
     
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    GUNARCHER Well-Known Member

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    And in the future, a initiative to repeal the "Emergency clause" or make it a requirement that 2/3 is required to pass it mus be considered
     
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    Is there anything to prevent an emergency clause reform from being a ballot measure?
     
  20. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Good question. I don't know if you can repeal that by ballot initiative. As I understand it, it's in the Oregon Constitution, and changing anything in the constitution usually requires, literally, an act of congress (well, the local legislature anyway). I think it will require the legislature to get it removed, and why would they do that? It's like term limits, the very people affected by it would have to vote on that too.