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I woulda done the same thing.. I didn't know you needed a special die.
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DOH! That really bites. But then? What were you thinking? And, there's a good reason to be buying Lee dies for brass like plain old 9mm too.
Point taken. Wasn't thinking. Yup. Note to self. Go to bed when tired.
I don't know about what lubrication would make the most sense for this application, maybe someone on this board might be able to chime in but that might be worth some research.
i'm going to home depot to look for brass rod now.Try this -
Remove the decapping stem.
Get a piece of brass rod about 1/8' or a bit larger in diameter and about an 1" or so longer than the die. Insert it into the stem opening and rest the edge of the brass rod on the edge of the mouth of the case and against the inside wall of the die.
Keep the brass rod snug on the mouth of the case with a couple fingers while holding the die give the end of the brass rod a rap with a SMALL hammer. Rotate the rod about a 1/8th around the case mouth and rap again.
Continue to rotate and hammer and see of the case starts moving out of the die.
Be patient and do not use a 32 oz framing hammer for this! Use a small hammer with a relatively small diameter head.
I hope what I described makes sense and Good luck with that.i'm going to home depot to look for brass rod now.
And by beer 4, JB welding it shut with some FFFFG powder and a fuse sticking out would sound perfectly reasonable.I hope what I described makes sense and Good luck with that.
Heck If you were closer Id say bring it over and we'd have have that case out of the die probably by beer # 2 !
The stainless case is necked down to form a primer tube, and used like a rivet to hold the base on. So, if you didn't rip the primer tube off the bottom of the case wall, tap it for a screw, then pull the case out with the screw, or use the screw like a gear puller to push the case out of the die. Soak the case inside and out with a penetrating oil that can get into really tight tolerances (I'm partial to kroil) before trying to budge it. Also, maybe use a brass screw to keep from damaging the internals of the die, and finer threads for more leverage. Maybe reenforce the primer tube too so the thin metal doesn't just expand when you start putting force on it.I'm planning on freezing it (shrink the case), and wedge a small thin object with a sharp edge between the casing and the die wall to creat a small slit, then peel that aluminum crap off the die.
Like to hear if any better approaches? I love my Redding die. Gotta try to save it!
Unfortunately I've managed to rip the base off. I'm definitely learning a lesson here. More update by tomorrow.The stainless case is necked down to form a primer tube, and used like a rivet to hold the base on. So, if you didn't rip the primer tube off the bottom of the case wall, tap it for a screw, then pull the case out with the screw, or use the screw like a gear puller to push the case out of the die. Soak the case inside and out with a penetrating oil that can get into really tight tolerances (I'm partial to kroil) before trying to budge it. Also, maybe use a brass screw to keep from damaging the internals of the die, and finer threads for more leverage. Maybe reenforce the primer tube too so the thin metal doesn't just expand when you start putting force on it.
Let us know how it goes.
Darn it. I was going to get all cute by saying freeze it with some freon, yada yada.. followed by "and then kick it into the creek and walk away".The Redding die is back alive!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for all the advice.
I took the freezer approach (didn't torch the brass) with the brass rod to tap it out. It actually ended up going up the die instead of back down after I tapped out the bottom portion.
Few learnings:
- Only use the die for the intended cartridges.
- Avoid trying new things when I'm dead tired.
- There are wise people on NWF that I can learn a thing or two from.
Thank you all for rescuing a Redding die!