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I handloaded the capsules using #6 shot and Red Dot powder out of a 4" model 29. Shot probably 50 grouse on the wing off of horseback.. never missed one as they would go straight up in the high grass at 8-10' away and it'd be done.Tell me about your experience with .44 shotshells. Thinking about trying some in my 7.5" Vaquero. Will they kill a raccoon or skunk? I don't really feel like shooting actual bullets in my barn, thought maybe they would have enough power with the long barrel.
So you are saying I might have better luck out of a 2.5" .357? How would the longer barrel hurt the pattern?I handloaded the capsules using #6 shot and Red Dot powder out of a 4" model 29. Shot probably 50 grouse on the wing off of horseback.. never missed one as they would go straight up in the high grass at 8-10' away and it'd be done.
The longer the barrel the worse the pattern will be.
Than a longer barrel given the same caliber, yes. The shorter barrels act more like actual smooth bores.So you are saying I might have better luck out of a 2.5" .357? How would the longer barrel hurt the pattern?
So you're saying the rifling in the barrel worsens the pattern. Makes sense.Than a longer barrel given the same caliber, yes. The shorter barrels act more like actual smooth bores.
Yes. The shot charge is less affected by the shorter barrels.So you're saying the rifling in the barrel worsens the pattern. Makes sense.
Runs out and grabs a turntable from the local flea market.As a simple experiment you can put a bunch of BB's on a record turntable and then switch it on.
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I don't think the .44 shot shell solution would be lethal. The .22 solution is much better. The "well placed shot" concept should preclude the worries about shooting inside the barn. Head shot is best for lethality. I've shot raccoons in the body with .22's, they tend to run away. Maybe near or far, but at least out of the barn. A big raccoon reared up on me one time, I shot it in the heart, it still ran away about 40 feet before it dropped dead. They work on muscle and nerve impulses for a bit even when they are running dead.Racoons are tough, but correct shot placement with a .22lrhp turns out their lights.
It does, actually. I patterned .22 shot from my 20" Henry Golden Boy and 4" Ruger 22/45. The patterns from the handgun were much tighter. They were essentially useless from the rifle. I think I patterned them at 10'Barrel length on shot rounds out of a revolver, I don't think variations in those short measures make much difference.
Good to know. I was thinking more along the lines of what the OP mentioned, that is, 7.5 vs. 2.5 inches with his .44 loads.It does, actually. I patterned .22 shot from my 20" Henry Golden Boy and 4" Ruger 22/45. The patterns from the handgun were much tighter. They were essentially useless from the rifle. I think I patterned them at 10'
Could be. If I ever get more, I'll run them through the chronograph. It won't tell us anything about patter, but it would tell us how much of difference the barrel length makes.In your example of handgun vs. rifle lengths. maybe the higher velocity of the payload exiting the rifle bbl. cause it to open up more?
I didn't know Rio was making them as well. The CCI #12 worked well against rats, but it's become expensive and a standard 36gr .22 slug kills them just as dead!I don't think I've ever fired .22 shot through a rifle. Only handguns, because the range was always negligible when I've used them. They've come in handy keeping woodpeckers off my cedar siding on the house. The small shot size was not a factor in damage to the building. I think it's #12 shot, about the size of sand. Rio loads some larger gauge shot shells with #12 shot; maybe they are in case you encounter a real big rat's nest.
I would not rely on them for that, snakes and such is about it.Tell me about your experience with .44 shotshells. Thinking about trying some in my 7.5" Vaquero. Will they kill a raccoon or skunk? I don't really feel like shooting actual bullets in my barn, thought maybe they would have enough power with the long barrel.
Link for the Rio?Could be. If I ever get more, I'll run them through the chronograph. It won't tell us anything about patter, but it would tell us how much of difference the barrel length makes.
I didn't know Rio was making them as well. The CCI #12 worked well against rats, but it's become expensive and a standard 36gr .22 slug kills them just as dead!
You'll have to ask @gmerktLink for the Rio?
Or don't turn it on: whatever happened to the Franklin Armory "Reformation" AR with straight "rifling"?As a simple experiment you can put a bunch of BB's on a record turntable and then switch it on.
I know, I went out to feed this morning and there was a real strong smell of one. I don't want to carry a long gun around in the mornings when I am feeding, and thought the 44 with shot in it might work well, I guess not.You don't want to shoot a skunk in your barn.....
Racoons are tough, but correct shot placement with a .22lrhp turns out their lights.