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$300 Paper Weight

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by The Nothing, May 23, 2016.

  1. The Nothing

    The Nothing PDX Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    *Le Sigh*

    Learned (again) the fun of warranties and voiding them. Short story: aftermarket guide-rod and stronger recoil spring broke the frame of my SD40VE. I really liked the way it was cycling too. Of course, I had previously stippled the pistol, voiding the warranty.

    So now I've got a cool $300 paperweight and no defensive weapon at all.

    I have no idea how long it'll be before I can afford another firearm. Now I'm left wondering if I should find another SD40VE since now I've got plenty of parts and three extra magazines or if I should go ahead and find something else.

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  2. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    That's sucks, sorry to hear about your issue. You could sell off the extra parts I think to offset a new gun.


    I still like my Florida Made SCCY CPX-2 (no safety, the -1 has a safety).

    DAO hammer fired trigger
    Fits my large hands
    Stainless slide and barrel
    10+1 9mm
    2 mags come with it
    *No questions asked, Lifetime Warrenty that follows the gun even if you don't buy it new
    Lots of colors for the polymer lower
    $250 out of most doors

    The DAO trigger isn't my favorite but easily can group 2-4 in at 25'.

    900 rounds and 2 stovepipes. Both after running many mags thru the gun and not lubricating it.
     
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  3. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    That does suck, sorry to hear it. Out of curiosity, what was the purpose of the replacement spring and rod? Was the gun failing to operate properly with the OEM parts?

    No intent to bash, just sharing my personal opinion - when it comes to defensive/carry guns, I leave them stock unless there is a very good reason to alter them. That of course doesn't include things like lights, lasers or sights which won't affect the function of the gun.

    Have you considered running it by one of the several good gunsmiths on this site and see what, if anything, they can do to help get you up and running again? @Velzey is my recommendation as I've dealt with him and I know he's going to take care of his customers.

    If it does come time to replace the gun, and you want to stick with a S&W in .40, I would recommend as I did on a different thread, to consider an M&P 40 - used or police trade, they're not much more than the SD40VE, and, in my opinion a much better gun. I've owned the SD40VE, but I'm much happier with my M&P40, which is my current bedside gun. Other than night sights, it's stock and runs very well.

    Joe's recommendation of the SCCY CPX-2 is a good one as well. They are fine little carry guns.
     
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  4. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Generally the Smith SD line (not the earlier Sigma's) has been well regarded. Since you have spares, I recommend doing that.
     
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  5. The Nothing

    The Nothing PDX Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    @etrain16 I hear you about modding defensive weapons. Lesson learned in this case. The reason for replacing the guide rod and spring were twofold: looks and faster cycling.

    I thought about finding a gunsmith, and I also thought about how I would go about this repair as well. It might be something I'll eventually go about doing, but I'd still feel cautious about the reliability of the repair.

    I also saw your posts about the retired M&Ps and will likely end up going that route, or something similar. Regardless I'll have to wait on funds. I do know I'll likely keep with the .40, or at least nothing smaller.
     
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  6. Medic!

    Medic! What just happened? Has eagle eyes. But cant remember what he saw. Bronze Supporter

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    Send it in.
     
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  7. Reno911

    Reno911 Hillsboro Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    So the recoil spring won't hold in place by the action block alone?

    I would be JB welding that thing back in or something before I toss it to the paperweight counter.

    The SDVs normally go on sale for 300 a lot too, so just a thought.

    Also I'd take the broken gun off your hands for a reasonable price. I wouldn't mind taking a crack at fixing it. Jerry rigged or not.
     
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  8. Medic!

    Medic! What just happened? Has eagle eyes. But cant remember what he saw. Bronze Supporter

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    Doesn't Glock charge $80 bucks or so for a new frame?

    S&W must be able to replace the frame for somewhere around that price?
     
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  9. coop44

    coop44 Tacoma ,WA Well-Known Member

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    wow a good example of "leave well enough alone" or "if it isn't broke don't fix it'
     
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  10. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Anytime you mod guns you run the risk of something happening. I've had accidents, luckily nothing I could repair or cheaply replace.
    Live and learn.
    I carry a glock and other than the trigger connector I haven't messed with it.

    I'm also of the idea you don't mod carry guns.
    To each their own, but I want it to go bang when I need it to.
    Range toys or or safe guns may be frankensteined though.
     
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  11. IheartSig

    IheartSig Beaverton Diamond Supporter Diamond Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    I might be wrong....but I think they are usually significantly more expensive. I wish I could pick up a new frame or two for 80.00 and if I've been missing this price somewhere can someone help me and point to it?
     
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  12. Reno911

    Reno911 Hillsboro Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    This is just for replacement purposes. IE your unmodified frame broke due to defect or other anomaly, you send yours in for a factory replacement. Glock does not sell factory serialized frames. Just replacements for damages.

    There are a few places that sell frames though. Usually around 250. Plus the BCG and transfer.
     
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  13. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Did Smith & Weason already tell you sorry we can't help you?
     
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  14. The Nothing

    The Nothing PDX Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    no, just every search I did on the matter.

    I'm actually going to be sending the pistol to Galloway, they're going to do a video on the failure, then send it to S&W.
     
  15. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Was it Galloway parts you used?
     
  16. The Nothing

    The Nothing PDX Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    yep
     
  17. mkwerx

    mkwerx Forest Grove, OR Well-Known Member

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    The SD's are decent guns. But if you feel like a bit of an upgrade (of course your SD mags do NOT work in M&P's) check out Summit Gun Broker out of Missouri - he deals in LOTS of police trade in guns and I've seen M&P's going, with night sights, for $299 before. He also deals in all the other name brand guns, NFA items (I know,not what you're after) in both new and used format. His prices blow CDNN out of the water on used guns.
     
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  18. ditchtiger

    ditchtiger In the sticks, Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    As a last resort you have a candidate for the next buy-back program.
     
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  19. The Nothing

    The Nothing PDX Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    HAHA! Brilliant!
     
  20. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I'm sorry to hear that! Just three bits of advice, touching on others.
    1. Get a carry gun!
    2. Leave it alone!
    3. Get a gun to beat on!
     
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