224 valkyrie questions

[Alan12013]

I've read about the cartridges external ballistics but never actually saw one. Today I saw brass for sale at the store and just from looking at it I thought it looked a lot smaller in case capacity then the 22-250... I tried finding out case capacity in my Lee reloading manual and couldn't find it nor could I find the info online. Does anyone know the case capacity? I'm thinking it's less then the 22Nosler and 22-250 yet it shoots 90gr bullets better then both and the 223rem. It would blow my mind if I found out that it's not case capacity but some sort of efficiency thing. Perhaps a different class of powders? I doubt that but just some thoughts. Also besides capacity, I'm wondering if anyone has built this in a bolt gun and if not why? To me it seems like it would make for a great bolt gun for some one wanting a target rifle build for fun while retaining the option to stretch it out a bit.

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[DirectDrive]

Head to Head: .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie
22N 36
22V 34.5

 

[Goosebrown]

It isn't as fast as a 22-250. Close but no cigar. Good choice in an AR but the larger 223" rounds have it beat.

 

[Alan12013]

It isn't as fast as a 22-250. Close but no cigar. Good choice in an AR but the larger 223" rounds have it beat.

Ok I thought it was faster. I've only read one article and watched one video which seemed legit but I did notice a few flaws that I overlooked but am now further questioning the rest of the info.. So the 223 rem is a bigger case capacity then I guess.

 

[DirectDrive]

So the 223 rem is a bigger case capacity then I guess.

Negative Ghostrider
22V is based on 6.8 SPC which is a bigger case than 223/5.56
22-250 is a bigger case altogether and will not run/fit in an AR15

 

[Alan12013]

Negative Ghostrider

Reading the article now...

 

[DirectDrive]

Reading the article now...

The 22N and 22V are going to be about as hard as you can drive the .224 pills out if an AR15

 

[Goosebrown]

Different loads too. what I saw was the 22-250 was a couple hundred faster. 224 is great for gas. No doubt because they're are limits in length without stepping up to a AR10 but for the bolt world,224 is sort of above the bottom but not the top.

Good example of a purpose designed roundvfor a single gun.

 

[P7M13]

Reading the article now...

Always helps to RTFM.

 

[P7M13]

When you deal with the rebated rim like the 22 Nosler, you may experience feed problems. It would then be really dependent upon gun design, which AR to have to feed the 22 Nosler.
I can say from experience, 6.8 SPC has feed problems stemming mostly from the magazines. I have found that PRI magazines are the best ones to have.
Another aspect that affects feeding is the lead tipped bullets, which deform when being pushed up the feed ramp. I have used Speer, Nosler, and Hornady SP bullets in my reloads, and the ones with a very soft lead at the tip can cause the bullet to jam on feeding. Enough to really piss me off and make me swear to never use that bullet again (Nosler)
If I were to rechamber a 6.8 to be a 224 Valkyrie, I would certainly use the heavy 77 to 90 grain bullets, and only use hollow points.

 

[titsonritz]

The AR-15's Creedmoor? .224 Valkyrie vs. .22 Nosler and 6.5 Grendel (Modern Intermediate Calibers 025) - The Firearm Blog

 

[DirectDrive]

The AR-15's Creedmoor? .224 Valkyrie vs. .22 Nosler and 6.5 Grendel (Modern Intermediate Calibers 025) - The Firearm Blog

Now someone will neck down 458S to .224 and get 22-250 performance out of the AR 15 platform.
Could happen.

 

[titsonritz]

Now someone will neck down 458S to .224 and get 22-250 performance out of the AR 15 platform.
Could happen.

Its funny you mention that I was just over and the TROMIX website checking some out 458 stuff

 

[Sporting Systems]

I broke in my new 224 Valkyrie this past weekend and am thrilled with it's performance. Sage rat hunt, was shooting quarter sized targets (head shots) on sage rats at 200 yards and obliterating them. At 400 yards, knocked a 3" tannerite target on a cold bore, and 3 more on successive shots in about 10 seconds or so. 90 grain federal sierra match king ran the best, 60 grain wasn't cycling so well and fouled the gun a lot (suppressed). Overall, I am thrilled with it's performance, flatter and softer than my 6.5 Grendel, and I love the Grendel. More ammo to test on next weekends rat hunt.

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