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[pchewn]

It's the county's new cost-saving effort. 6 jurors instead of 12 .

Of course, they could have saved even more money by not even pressing charges ......

 

[DeanfromOregon]

god help the poor people in that courtroom if there's enough time for their periods to synch up.

 

[DMax]

god help the poor people in that courtroom if there's enough time for their periods to synch up.

OK that is damm funny I don't care who you are thats funny.

 

[Kable]

I just saw that the judge blocked the audio experts from testifying in the case. The recording can still be played and each side can have people familiar with TM or GZ voice testify who they believe the voice belongs to. This is good for GZ especially since TM dad initially said the voice wasn't his sons

 

[deen_ad]

I just saw that the judge blocked the audio experts from testifying in the case. The recording can still be played and each side can have people familiar with TM or GZ voice testify who they believe the voice belongs to. This is good for GZ especially since TM dad initially said the voice want his sons

wasn't

 

[Kable]

Stupid auto correct.... thanks I fixed it

 

[Law of Self Defense]

Hey folks,

Today marks the first day of the trial proper, with opening statements. It is with these statements that both the State and the defense will set out their theory of the case. We will, of course, be covering today's trial with all-day live coverage, including video streaming and a running Twitter feed of selected commenters, here: Legal Insurrection Zimmerman Trial LIVE - Day 1 - Opening Statements.

To date, the State's apparent theory has been that Zimmerman "profiled, chased, and killed Martin."

The theory of the defense, in addition to challenging the underlying criminality of Zimmerman's alleged "profiling" and "chasing," is that Zimmerman's killing of Martin was done in necessary and lawful self-defense, as provided under Florida law.

It should be fascinating to see what "facts" the State points to in both supporting the alleged criminal charge (which the State will have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt) and in undermining Zimmerman's claim of self-defense (which the State will have to disprove beyond a reasonable doubt).

P.S. FYI, we've pulled together a compilation of our notes on these six final jurors (and the four alternates) here: Meet the Zimmerman Trial Jurors.

Andrew
@LawSelfDefense
Facebook: Law of Self Defense

 

[EMNofSeattle]

This prosecutor should start writing screeplays... good golly, he's dramatic.

"the defendant got out of his car, with a fully loaded kel-tec 9mm pistol AND TWO flashlights, not one but TWO flashlights."

 

[Law of Self Defense]

Rather fact-free opening statement--State seems to be basing theory of case on the ABSENCE of evidence--"no blood on Trayvon's hands"--so Zimmerman's injuries were self-inflicted, then?

No one heard Martin say, "You're going to die tonight," so that means it didn't happen?

Andrew
@LawSelfDefense
Facebook: Law of Self Defense

 

[michaels]

Fact free?

It is a fact no blood was found on trayvons hands.
Have your opinions, but the facts are facts.

No one heard Martin say "You're going to die tonight"
That is a fact.
Sounds like the word of a dead man against the word of someone who has already misled the court.

Come on man, make better arguments.

You're a lawyer.

 

[Law of Self Defense]

Hey Folks,


I just posted up my mid-day analysis of the opening statements so far, you can find it at the bottom of today's live coverage post: Zimmerman Trial LIVE ? Day 1 ? Opening Statements


Andrew
@LawSelfDefense
Facebook: Law of Self Defense

 

[JVK]

Spam.

 

[Law of Self Defense]

Spam.

No, thanks, already had lunch.

Andrew
@LawSelfDefense
Facebook: Law of Self Defense

 

[pchewn]

No one heard Martin say "You're going to die tonight"
That is a fact.

I thought Zimmerman's written statement was that he heard Martin say those words? Zimmerman is not a "no one".

 

[JGRuby]

Your going to trust the guy with the most to lose to give truthful testimony. Zimmerman, no different than many of us and will not say anything if he is smart that will hurt himself - even if his testimony is false.

James Ruby

 

[coyote223]

Your going to trust the guy with the most to lose to give truthful testimony. Zimmerman, no different than many of us and will not say anything if he is smart that will hurt himself - even if his testimony is false.

James Ruby

You will have to. Only way to hear the other side, is with a Psychic.

 

[pchewn]

Your going to trust the guy with the most to lose to give truthful testimony. Zimmerman, no different than many of us and will not say anything if he is smart that will hurt himself - even if his testimony is false.

James Ruby

If I were on the jury, I would make a judgement as to whether he was believable or not. But I would not automatically discount him as untruthful just because his testimonly helps his case.

But people who say "no one" heard those words have already displayed their bias against Zimmerman.

 

[michaels]

No, see that's the thing pchewn.

My bias against zimmerman hasn bee stated, not implied.

When I say no one, I mean no one "other than zimmerman"

And seriously, there are (i'm sure) so many other "grey area" sd cases out there.
Why are people rallying around this guy?
He made so many mistakes, the biggest being getting out of his car to follow this kid.
It really was an avoidable situation.

IF there is really good evidence, I can change my mind.
But it will have to be damn good evidence.

And, yes, I know how the courts work.

That's the thing.

I'm not in court, so I can interpret what I know, how I want to.

 

[gunnoob75]

Why are people rallying around this guy?

Because the entire lawsuit is about killing a black kid. Not justice, not facts; Race.

 

[michaels]

So, can I understand your statement to mean that if trayvon had not been black, this lawsuit would be about justice and facts?