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The the ranges I frequent, there's a ~75% chance that if there's a long gun present, it's suppressed. I've never seen anyone besides myself shoot a suppressed handgun. Note I didn't say "pistol" so all the "well ackshually" jerkwads will have to sit this one out.

To me, in my recent range trips, it's generally more common to see a suppressor than not

I give full credit to silencer shop.
 
Question............

Did more recent/frequent silencer use by our military (i.e. Gulf War, Iraq, Afghanistan) perhaps influence their popularity stateside?

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I don't think so; not with Afghanistan going from 2001ish to 2020, and Iraq from 2003 to 2011 with full withdrawal to happen this year?

From 2019-2024 the number of registered suppressors nearly doubled. I don't think that jump has anything much to do with any of the wars the US has been involved in, and it has more to do with SilencerCo and Silencer Shop setting up quick self-serve kiosks in gun shops for suppressors to make it very easy to finish the ATF paperwork?
 
I've never seen anyone besides myself shoot a suppressed handgun. Note I didn't say "pistol" so all the "well ackshually" jerkwads will have to sit this one out.
An AR-15, or really, any gun that's typically seen as a rifle; without a stock, under 16" barrel still counts as a "handgun" :s0140: :s0064:

Pistols and handguns are just semantics at this point ;)
 
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Yeah, I realized that I misremembered shortly after posting it, but left it because I had other bubblegum to do and it wasn't really a key element of my entire post.

I should have known somebody would have to 'well....aktuallllyyyyy' it!
Well,,,,,,,aktualllyyy.....:D

Lately, we (local Vernonia shooters) have been sending our CLEO notifications to Oregon AG Dan Rayfield. I heard it reported that one guy got an email back from one of Dan's staff asking, "What is this and why are you sending it to us?'"

At this point it's really a useless gesture. I read a 2A attorney's comment that " folding the notification into a paper airplane and launching it toward Salem" would satisfy the requirement. I'm not that flippant, but the statement isn't far off the mark.

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Still not seeing where in the ATF definition does it say a handgun or a pistol cannot be firing an intermediate or full rifle cartridge :p
You and that guy who writes nothing but paragraphs should have a beer and see who's more technically right
 
The CLEO notification requirement is still in place, but that's all it is.....notification. The "Hey...I'm going to buy this" requirement.

It used to be that you had to get approval from your CLEO to then get approval from the ATF. That hurdle went by the wayside a few years back.

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That was what kept a LOT of people from buying. Many CLEO would simply refuse to give the OK. I was SOOO glad when they took that power away from them.
 
That was what kept a LOT of people from buying. Many CLEO would simply refuse to give the OK. I was SOOO glad when they took that power away from them.
That sounds like an abuse of power if I ever heard. Kind of ironic when the "thin blue line" people are also gun people.
 

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