We need a Darwin Award thread for stupid tricks with guns

[kmk1012]

Yep, the paint protection and interior protection are "already" applied so they cannot remove the cost is what we were told. When we said keep the truck (POS Chevy) they removed it. It's all about built in profit that they can sell when the deal is made.

 

[AshWilliams]

That's what I did when looking for my first ever new pickup. Unfortunately I should have listened the the Chevrolet salesman when he pitched the extended warranty as that thing was an ABSOLUTE POS!!! No excuse for quality degrading that badly from poor manufacturing and engineering, they said everything is "in spec" after seven trips to the dealer and told me to pound sand. I traded that junk in on a different brand that was more reliable and now a few years later , Chevrolet comes out with a recall to address the issue I was experiencing. I am a Chevy fan through and through but needed to reliably get to work so bought a Ford. Chevys are the pretty ponies but Fords just work no matter how ugly they are.

We ran into a similar situation with a local Toyota dealer when purchasing our last vehicle. They tried to slip in all these extras: paint protection, interior protection, wheel rash protections, extended warranty and prepaid routine service (that's the new one)…. Added several thousand dollars to the price of the vehicle.

So I started declining all the add on's, don't need paint protection because it's clear coated, don't need interior protection all the carpets are covered with all weather mats, the seats/door panels are not fabric. Wheel rash protections sounded ridiculous, prepaid routine service, no thanks, might not have it that long….

Extended warranty was the one they didn't want to let go. High pressure, it covers things after the manufacturers warranty, ok so is there a quality issue with the new model? No but you never know, that's why you have life insurance, it's like life insurance for the car…. No thanks…. You know electronics are expensive to replace, they're only covered for a year…. So I ask if there's been issues, he said no, but couldn't stop talking, told me the electronics are made by other suppliers. I ask if Toyota has properly vetted the electronics and the vendors, well of course was his reply.

But he persisted. Finally I asked him, are you trying to make me leave without closing this deal. No I'm just looking out for your interest. Another push for the extended warranty from him and I turned to the wife and said, let's go see if we can make a similar deal on that Buick Enclave you liked…

Suddenly the extended warranty nor my best interest were so important. I hate car dealers…

It was probably the same shop. Now that you mention it, he was stressing all of the electronics present in modern Toyotas like it was a liability.

 

[kmk1012]

It was probably the same shop. Now that you mention it, he was stressing all of the electronics present in modern Toyotas like it was a liability.

With modern Toyotas probably correct but I was dealing with Chevrolet.

 

[Alexx1401]

That's what I did when looking for my first ever new pickup. Unfortunately I should have listened the the Chevrolet salesman when he pitched the extended warranty as that thing was an ABSOLUTE POS!!! No excuse for quality degrading that badly from poor manufacturing and engineering, they said everything is "in spec" after seven trips to the dealer and told me to pound sand. I traded that junk in on a different brand that was more reliable and now a few years later , Chevrolet comes out with a recall to address the issue I was experiencing. I am a Chevy fan through and through but needed to reliably get to work so bought a Ford. Chevys are the pretty ponies but Fords just work no matter how ugly they are.

When buying new there is always a chance you are going to get the one made on a Friday kind of thing. If the vehicle is new it gives you time to see what is going to happen. VERY often if things are a problem it shows up sooner rather than later. So if your vehicle starts needing a lot of free fixes it may be worth buying an extension when the factory gets close to ending. That Saturn we had that is what I did. When it was getting close to the end of the factory and they had, had to fix a LOT of stuff I then bought another 3 years. Was well worth it as they did several more free repairs. When the second one was coming to an end we got rid of the damn thing.

 

[Alexx1401]

With modern Toyotas probably correct but I was dealing with Chevrolet.

ALL the new have a LOT of electronics now. They do a LOT of good in that they get performance out of them now that is impressive. It does of course have the trade off that when things go wrong it can get quite pricey to fix now.

 

[Alexx1401]

We ran into a similar situation with a local Toyota dealer when purchasing our last vehicle. They tried to slip in all these extras: paint protection, interior protection, wheel rash protections, extended warranty and prepaid routine service (that's the new one)…. Added several thousand dollars to the price of the vehicle.

So I started declining all the add on's, don't need paint protection because it's clear coated, don't need interior protection all the carpets are covered with all weather mats, the seats/door panels are not fabric. Wheel rash protections sounded ridiculous, prepaid routine service, no thanks, might not have it that long….

Extended warranty was the one they didn't want to let go. High pressure, it covers things after the manufacturers warranty, ok so is there a quality issue with the new model? No but you never know, that's why you have life insurance, it's like life insurance for the car…. No thanks…. You know electronics are expensive to replace, they're only covered for a year…. So I ask if there's been issues, he said no, but couldn't stop talking, told me the electronics are made by other suppliers. I ask if Toyota has properly vetted the electronics and the vendors, well of course was his reply.

But he persisted. Finally I asked him, are you trying to make me leave without closing this deal. No I'm just looking out for your interest. Another push for the extended warranty from him and I turned to the wife and said, let's go see if we can make a similar deal on that Buick Enclave you liked…

Suddenly the extended warranty nor my best interest were so important. I hate car dealers…

The sales guys are of course paid to sell. Some of them are good at it, some like the one you met here are very poor at it. A "good" sales person knows when to stop and keep a sale rather than pushing a sale out the door and getting nothing.

 

[Oxygen Mask]

Coupla things. You've picked your vehicle, you've negotiated your price or payment. You relax. You sit down with the finance guy to sign the paperwork. What most people don't know is he's the biggest shark in the pool. He is the guy who will take the biggest chunk out of your wallet. But your guard is down. In my dad's day, the finance mgr was the ONLY guy in the dealership who worked on straight commission. Straight. Commission . My dad made a buttload of money. Even today if you WANT that extended warranty you can negotiate for it. Just like financing, it's merely a product they sell. And they will deal.

Today I negotiate price until I get close, then switch to monthly payment when negotiations stall. Because financing is also a product they sell, and they never offer you the best financing, only the most profitable, unless it's a deal breaker. They aren't crooks, but they don't have your best interests at heart...

Sorry for participating in the thread hijack....

 

[The Heretic]

OTOH - my daughter's used Audi came with a 30 day warranty. Within the first week, it was using about a quart of oil per day. After a lot of back and forth, the third party warranty had to cover a fairly extensive rebuild of the engine (replace pistons/rings/etc.).

Ever since, she has been paranoid about the oil level warning light (it did not come with a dipstick - neither did my BMW!). OTOH - my SIL filled the oil up until it wouldn't take anymore and then had to take it to the shop to drain the excess oil. Damned Audi has been a money pit - lots of stuff gone wrong with it; ignition coils, computers, etc.

 

[elsie]

elsie

 

[MTpockets]

Keeping with the recent Kactus theme….


…never bring a shotgun to a Kacti-Karate fight.

 

[nammac]

Keeping with the recent Kactus theme….

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…never bring a shotgun to a Kacti-Karate fight.

Talk about karma…

Don't mess with the cactus and the cactus won't mess with you. There's a classic "do unto others" lesson here…

 

[MTpockets]

There's a classic "do unto others" lesson here…

I heard that cactus feller left the world with more spine than most of us...literally

 

[sobo]

Yeah, when we bought our latest car the salesman pitched his spiel and put his own spin on the speech. He also tried to trick us into all of the extras like sealant on the paint job by including everything in the paperwork and was basically like, "Sign here and you're all set." I reviewed and pointed out all of the stuff we didn't want and he looked irritated. After his warranty speech Mrs. Williams looked at him and said, "We buy (car manufacturer here) because we still drive a 20+ year old car and we're a (car manufacturer here) family. If your new car is unreliable and prone to breaking I'm not buying (car manufacturer here) any more." What could the guy say -- he was beat.

Don't paint jobs on modern (last 25-30 years or so) rigs already come with a clear coat sealant as part of the purchase price? Never heard of paying for a sealant that would have to be applied at the dealership.

OTOH, that undercoating...

 

[sobo]

I heard that cactus feller left the world with more spine than most of us...literally

Seems like a prickly situation...

 

[Oxygen Mask]

Don't paint jobs on modern (last 25-30 years or so) rigs already come with a clear coat sealant as part of the purchase price? Never heard of paying for a sealant that would have to be applied at the dealership.

OTOH, that undercoating...

I've been using paint sealants for 20 years. Protects far better than waxing and less work, plus they UV protect the plastic too (no fading with age)
The one I currently use is incredibly easy to apply (it's like magic) and it works better than wax, it's actually similar to ceramic coatings. Best product yet.

303 Touchless Sealant | Gold Eagle Co

Have you had trouble finding time to fully wax your car? 303® Touchless Sealant will save you hours!

www.goldeagle.com

 

[nammac]

Use this on the Arcadia, once in the spring and once in the fall, deepens the black, water beads off, even reduces the attraction of dirt to the surface. Spray on, wipe off. Easy peasy…

CERAKOTE® Platinum Rapid Ceramic Paint Sealant (14 oz. Kit)

Cerakote Ceramics is the leader in automotive ceramic coatings. From headlight and trim restoration to ceramic paint coatings, Cerakote covers your whole vehicle!

cerakoteceramics.com

 

[Alexx1401]

Keeping with the recent Kactus theme….

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…never bring a shotgun to a Kacti-Karate fight.

I was living down that way when that happened. A lot of us got a good laugh out of it when it hit the local papers.

 

[Alexx1401]

Use this on the Arcadia, once in the spring and once in the fall, deepens the black, water beads off, even reduces the attraction of dirt to the surface. Spray on, wipe off. Easy peasy…

CERAKOTE® Platinum Rapid Ceramic Paint Sealant (14 oz. Kit)

Cerakote Ceramics is the leader in automotive ceramic coatings. From headlight and trim restoration to ceramic paint coatings, Cerakote covers your whole vehicle!

cerakoteceramics.com

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Looks interesting. Just ordered some from Amazon to give it a try.

 

[The Heretic]

Dog Shoots Woman With Shotgun Outside Nebraska Gas Station, Police Say

A bizarre incident out of Nebraska is drawing attention after police say a dog accidentally discharged a shotgun inside a truck parked at a convenience store, injuring a woman stopped nearby in traffi...

www.yahoo.com

 

[Alexx1401]

Dog Shoots Woman With Shotgun Outside Nebraska Gas Station, Police Say

A bizarre incident out of Nebraska is drawing attention after police say a dog accidentally discharged a shotgun inside a truck parked at a convenience store, injuring a woman stopped nearby in traffi...

www.yahoo.com

This is another of those stories that have me thinking "maybe". No doubt some sheer stupidity lead to the gun going off. I would have to wonder if the story told by the owner is what really happened though. Kind of like the "dog ate my homework" story. No doubt it has happened. Just not as many times as its been told that it went that way.