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Gun owner says he had a negligent discharge in his bedroom after reloading a Glock and then forgetting what condition it was in




Awwwwww..........Come On Man
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Aloha, Mark
 
I think intentional stupidity is a specific exclusion...
It sure as hell should be. I have often wondered about those "warranties" that claim they cover things like spills and such. If I bring it in with a bullet hole will they give me a new one? :s0140:
Back when PC's were still VERY pricey I bought my first laptop. BestBuy sales guy is trying to sell me "coverage" for $400. I told him in a couple years the damn thing will not be worth that much as fast as this stuff changes. He told me he was sure glad he bought coverage for his because he cracked his screen after a couple years and he got a new one. So I said "so if I run this over with my car a couple years from now you guys will give me a new one?" He of course started to hem and hah. I said just ring it up dude not interested in the damn coverage.
 
It sure as hell should be. I have often wondered about those "warranties" that claim they cover things like spills and such. If I bring it in with a bullet hole will they give me a new one? :s0140:
Back when PC's were still VERY pricey I bought my first laptop. BestBuy sales guy is trying to sell me "coverage" for $400. I told him in a couple years the damn thing will not be worth that much as fast as this stuff changes. He told me he was sure glad he bought coverage for his because he cracked his screen after a couple years and he got a new one. So I said "so if I run this over with my car a couple years from now you guys will give me a new one?" He of course started to hem and hah. I said just ring it up dude not interested in the damn coverage.
With electronics, if it works in the first 90 minutes, then it is okay, if it lasts 90 days then it will probably last at least a few years. Warranties for electronics are written with this in mind.
 
It sure as hell should be. I have often wondered about those "warranties" that claim they cover things like spills and such. If I bring it in with a bullet hole will they give me a new one? :s0140:
Back when PC's were still VERY pricey I bought my first laptop. BestBuy sales guy is trying to sell me "coverage" for $400. I told him in a couple years the damn thing will not be worth that much as fast as this stuff changes. He told me he was sure glad he bought coverage for his because he cracked his screen after a couple years and he got a new one. So I said "so if I run this over with my car a couple years from now you guys will give me a new one?" He of course started to hem and hah. I said just ring it up dude not interested in the damn coverage.
You know what they say about insurance in a casino right? It's a suckers bet. When offered a warranty on an item I'm about to purchase I always ask why it's needed, is it poorly made? Actually I have left without buying an item before (Junk from Harbor Freight) when they said they are commonly returned due to breaking. What happened to buying something that will last? It seems like you cannot do that at any cost anymore.
 
With electronics, if it works in the first 90 minutes, then it is okay, if it lasts 90 days then it will probably last at least a few years. Warranties for electronics are written with this in mind.
YEP! That same laptop did have issues about 6 months after I bought it. The warrantee it came with covered it. Just had me take it to a local shop and fixed it free. At that time price was dropping so fast on those things that there was no point in taking one in to be repaired after the factory warrantee expired. No doubt the stores made a mint selling those "extended" warrantee's to people which was why the sales guys used to be so hard sell on them. Amazon seems to really push this for the same reason. Damn near everything I buy there is a pop up asking me if I want to buy coverage for the item. Some of the things it pops up on do get me to laugh.
 
YEP! That same laptop did have issues about 6 months after I bought it. The warrantee it came with covered it. Just had me take it to a local shop and fixed it free. At that time price was dropping so fast on those things that there was no point in taking one in to be repaired after the factory warrantee expired. No doubt the stores made a mint selling those "extended" warrantee's to people which was why the sales guys used to be so hard sell on them. Amazon seems to really push this for the same reason. Damn near everything I buy there is a pop up asking me if I want to buy coverage for the item. Some of the things it pops up on do get me to laugh.
Long ago (1985?)when my father was the finance manager at a Toyota dealership, he taught me to never buy extended warranties. At the time the going rate was $500, it cost the dealer $80.
If you think you might need an extended warranty you should rethink buying that product.
 
You know what they say about insurance in a casino right? It's a suckers bet. When offered a warranty on an item I'm about to purchase I always ask why it's needed, is it poorly made? Actually I have left without buying an item before (Junk from Harbor Freight) when they said they are commonly returned due to breaking. What happened to buying something that will last? It seems like you cannot do that at any cost anymore.
That's probably not a good selling point for their staff to tell the customers that. "We get a lot of these back because the fall apart" :s0140:
Harbor Freight has been great for me since they hit here. I was buying mail order from them before the stores started to pop up here. Of course with much of the stuff you have to have realistic expectations. Things like my bench grinder and drill press. I bought them so long ago I am not sure when I bought them. Reason they work for me is they are seldom used so they last. If I was in a shop using them daily? No doubt they would not last. Other things like the eclectic Mower I bought is made by Green Works with their name slapped on them and the things has been great.
Other stuff like the VERY cheap hand tools they sell if its going to be set aside and probably never used? Fine. If you actually are going to use them a lot? Have to look at how they are made compared to price.
 
Long ago (1985?)when my father was the finance manager at a Toyota dealership, he taught me to never buy extended warranties. At the time the going rate was $500, it cost the dealer $80.
If you think you might need an extended warranty you should rethink buying that product.
I figured as hard as they push those things they had to be a great money maker for them. When Saturn was a new thing Wife and I bought one new. Sales guy was REALLY pushing the extended thing. I asked him "so you are saying your cars are junk that fall apart? " That did make him skip a beat :s0140:
That car in the first couple years did start to fall apart. The factory had to do a LOT of free work on it. Now and then I still see one of those running around and always wonder how its survived this long :eek:
 
I figured as hard as they push those things they had to be a great money maker for them. When Saturn was a new thing Wife and I bought one new. Sales guy was REALLY pushing the extended thing. I asked him "so you are saying your cars are junk that fall apart? " That did make him skip a beat :s0140:
That car in the first couple years did start to fall apart. The factory had to do a LOT of free work on it. Now and then I still see one of those running around and always wonder how its survived this long :eek:
It's made of plastic!!! Remember those stupid commercials showing they couldn't be dented?
 
Long ago (1985?)when my father was the finance manager at a Toyota dealership, he taught me to never buy extended warranties. At the time the going rate was $500, it cost the dealer $80.
If you think you might need an extended warranty you should rethink buying that product.
OTOH - my daughter's used Audi came with a 30 day warranty. Within the first week, it was using about a quart of oil per day. After a lot of back and forth, the third party warranty had to cover a fairly extensive rebuild of the engine (replace pistons/rings/etc.).
 
I think a lot of the parts in the engine in mine were plastic :s0140:
Damn thing had less than 100K on it when I finally just gave up on it and it was ready to drop dead in the road. They made Kia look good :s0140:
Yep, that's the era where 100k mile warranties started to become standard because that's how long they would last.
 
I figured as hard as they push those things they had to be a great money maker for them. When Saturn was a new thing Wife and I bought one new. Sales guy was REALLY pushing the extended thing. I asked him "so you are saying your cars are junk that fall apart? " That did make him skip a beat :s0140:
That car in the first couple years did start to fall apart. The factory had to do a LOT of free work on it. Now and then I still see one of those running around and always wonder how its survived this long :eek:
Yeah, when we bought our latest car the salesman pitched his spiel and put his own spin on the speech. He also tried to trick us into all of the extras like sealant on the paint job by including everything in the paperwork and was basically like, "Sign here and you're all set." I reviewed and pointed out all of the stuff we didn't want and he looked irritated. After his warranty speech Mrs. Williams looked at him and said, "We buy (car manufacturer here) because we still drive a 20+ year old car and we're a (car manufacturer here) family. If your new car is unreliable and prone to breaking I'm not buying (car manufacturer here) any more." What could the guy say -- he was beat.
 
Yeah, when we bought our latest car the salesman pitched his spiel and put his own spin on the speech. He also tried to trick us into all of the extras like sealant on the paint job by including everything in the paperwork and was basically like, "Sign here and you're all set." I reviewed and pointed out all of the stuff we didn't want and he looked irritated. After his warranty speech Mrs. Williams looked at him and said, "We buy (car manufacturer here) because we still drive a 20+ year old car and we're a (car manufacturer here) family. If your new car is unreliable and prone to breaking I'm not buying (car manufacturer here) any more." What could the guy say -- he was beat.
That's what I did when looking for my first ever new pickup. Unfortunately I should have listened the the Chevrolet salesman when he pitched the extended warranty as that thing was an ABSOLUTE POS!!! No excuse for quality degrading that badly from poor manufacturing and engineering, they said everything is "in spec" after seven trips to the dealer and told me to pound sand. I traded that junk in on a different brand that was more reliable and now a few years later , Chevrolet comes out with a recall to address the issue I was experiencing. I am a Chevy fan through and through but needed to reliably get to work so bought a Ford. Chevys are the pretty ponies but Fords just work no matter how ugly they are.
 
We ran into a similar situation with a local Toyota dealer when purchasing our last vehicle. They tried to slip in all these extras: paint protection, interior protection, wheel rash protections, extended warranty and prepaid routine service (that's the new one)…. Added several thousand dollars to the price of the vehicle.

So I started declining all the add on's, don't need paint protection because it's clear coated, don't need interior protection all the carpets are covered with all weather mats, the seats/door panels are not fabric. Wheel rash protections sounded ridiculous, prepaid routine service, no thanks, might not have it that long….

Extended warranty was the one they didn't want to let go. High pressure, it covers things after the manufacturers warranty, ok so is there a quality issue with the new model? No but you never know, that's why you have life insurance, it's like life insurance for the car…. No thanks…. You know electronics are expensive to replace, they're only covered for a year…. So I ask if there's been issues, he said no, but couldn't stop talking, told me the electronics are made by other suppliers. I ask if Toyota has properly vetted the electronics and the vendors, well of course was his reply.

But he persisted. Finally I asked him, are you trying to make me leave without closing this deal. No I'm just looking out for your interest. Another push for the extended warranty from him and I turned to the wife and said, let's go see if we can make a similar deal on that Buick Enclave you liked…

Suddenly the extended warranty nor my best interest were so important. I hate car dealers…
 

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