Quantcast
  1. Sign up now and join over 35,000 northwest gun owners. It's quick, easy, and 100% free!

Traveling by car through OR and NV

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Serenity, Mar 19, 2012.

  1. Serenity

    Serenity WA New Member

    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    I am a WA CPL holder but it is not recognized by OR or NV, both of which I will drive through on a trip the the Reno area. There I will staying in a hotel. My main concern is with staying in a hotel. I know I am fine with the gun in the car as long as it isn't "readily accessible". Once I am at the hotel I am in a residence so don't need a permit. What should I do with the gun when I am not at the hotel? It's pretty budget-y; I don't think it has in-room safes. I don't want to leave the gun behind, so I guess I will have to keep it in the "non accessible" part of my vehicle while engaging in my visitor activities. I don't exactly have a target vehicle, lol. Am I missing anything in my understanding of the situation?
     
  2. gunnails

    gunnails Hillsboro Active Member

    Messages:
    752
    Likes Received:
    210
    While in OR as long as it is unloaded it can be carried on the dash of you're car. While in Reno place it in a nondescript bag and ask the Hotel/Motel if they can place it in there safe. Or just stuff it under some nasty dirty underwear.
     
  3. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,476
    Likes Received:
    1,234
    Not a lawyer, but I believe you are OK with a weapon in a rented residence; even if it's only for one night. One of the biggest issues I have about traveling with my guns...:(
     
  4. Serenity

    Serenity WA New Member

    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    I thought about the motel safe; I guess a briefcase type carrier would just feel like it had a laptop in it. In my experience the hotels in the town I am visiting have been very professional and I would feel comfortable leaving a bag in their big safe. This will be my first time taking a gun anywhere with me, so I need to remember what everyone has said; that I will feel like I have a huge flag on me but no one else will ever know.

    Thanks for the OR car info.
     
  5. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    10,388
    Likes Received:
    7,601
    Untitled Document
    Nevada State Laws

    And this one should have plenty of links to see most of the carry laws.Probably one to bookmark for future travels
    Carry Concealed

    Nevada specific
    Nevada CCW Concealed Carry Hand Gun Legal Info

    So you can open carry,but I don't believe any casinos will let you in with it.Or they may have a place to lock them for you.

    This seems to be the part to remember about Nevada
     
  6. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    10,388
    Likes Received:
    7,601
    I gotta ask,why would you put your gun on the dash when it is just as legal to carry an unloaded gun in the glove box or in a case on the back seat ,out of site?

    A gun sitting on the dash of your car seems like the stupidest place to put it.Wouldn't feel very good bouncing off your head in an accident.
    Or make the LEO stopping you very comfortable either.
     
  7. ablaut

    ablaut Salem(ish), OR Member

    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    1
    That feeling is normal. And probably the product of fear of guns (instead of respect for guns) engrained in us. I assure you, it'll pass :)
     
  8. gunnails

    gunnails Hillsboro Active Member

    Messages:
    752
    Likes Received:
    210
    ===============================================================

    I was trying to make a point, that being if the gun is under the seat or otherwise concealed that is illegal unless it is unloaded in a locked container (glove box maybe).

    If the gun is in full view, then it is legal carry.

    Not trying to talk in absolutes, more so just talking about transporting fire arms, educate me if any I have posted is inaccurate.
     
  9. gunnails

    gunnails Hillsboro Active Member

    Messages:
    752
    Likes Received:
    210
    As far as I understand you can carry with a loaded gun on the dash and be perfectly legal.
     
  10. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    10,388
    Likes Received:
    7,601
    I just went through most of this,trying to find out if it was illegal to carry a loaded handgun in your car.I couldn't find any laws against it,which would lead me to believe that a loaded "handgun" isn't a concealed weapon in Nevada.
    A loaded shotgun or rifle is indeed illegal
    Loaded meaning having a round in the chamber.They allow rounds in the magazine,while in the vehicle.Unlike Washington
    NRS Subject Index: T

    Oh and I did go through more than just "T" lol
     
  11. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,830
    Likes Received:
    871
    What a bunch of misinformation. OR and NV are both Open Carry states, you can carry loaded on your person, just not hidden. If you have a WA CPL, you can OPEN carry loaded anywhere in Oregon, including loaded open carry restricted towns, except a public building (you know, shcool, library, county buildings...etc) What OR local governments can restrict is in ORS 166.173. If you will note...it says nothing about an OR CHP (except for public buildings and that is in 166.370) it only says "licensed to carry". THIS IS OC ONLY!

    You CANNOT conceal in either state with a WA CPL, but you can Open Carry in BOTH states> check OpenCarry.org - State Information For Oregon, OpenCarry.org - State Information For Nevada, and Handgunlaw.us
     
  12. Serenity

    Serenity WA New Member

    Messages:
    14
    Likes Received:
    0
    That was how I understood what I read; if I want to have my gun loaded on my passenger seat I'm golden. And I can stash it if I'm getting gas or stopping to use the facilities. But that kind of leaves me reluctant to speed, and if I drive the speed limit all the way there, it's going to take 14 hours. So I figure I will put it away while I'm driving but have it accessible at the hotel.
     
  13. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,830
    Likes Received:
    871
    Personally, I would never drive with a pistol on the dash or in a seat. It is not safe if you are in an accident. Either wear it, or put it away somewhere where it cannot fly around if you have a fender bender. Personally, I wear mine. There is nothing wrong with OC. I have been doing it for over 40 years myself.
     
  14. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    10,388
    Likes Received:
    7,601
    I don't know what you are calling "miss information" but what I posted was from Nevada statutes.
    And of course Opencarry has this disclaimer,remember? They may not be golden

     
  15. bruzer

    bruzer Grants Pass, OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    785
    Likes Received:
    300
    Your best bet is to stop by and put your gun in my safe. I'll make sure it stays safe and is in proper working order for you!
    Mike
     
    mjbskwim and (deleted member) like this.
  16. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,440
    Likes Received:
    491
    While you're correct in your reading of the law, are you 100% positive there is no case law that clarifies what constitutes "licensed to carry" ?
     
  17. CharonPDX

    CharonPDX Portland, OR Active Member

    Messages:
    523
    Likes Received:
    214
    Note, a court case in Oregon has determined that local prohibitions of loaded open carry in public places apply to your car. That means that when driving through Portland and Salem (assuming you take I-5,) you cannot carry loaded without an Oregon CHL.

    You can carry unloaded through local-prohibition zones, then re-load as soon as you pass through.

    If you're not passing down I-5, though, you're fine. All of the open-carry-prohibition zones are Portland, Portland suburbs, and Salem. (Other than the oddball Astoria up on the coast and Independence, a Salem suburb that isn't on any major roads.)
     
  18. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,440
    Likes Received:
    491
    Does the prohibition really apply on interstates ? For example, many Indian Reservations prohibit firearms (possession and/or carry), and there are interstate highways that pass through such reservations. Yet the prohibitions don't apply on such highways. Or perhaps they're not enforced ? Another question would be who has the jurisdiction to patrol I-5 going through the downtown Portland ?
     
  19. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    10,388
    Likes Received:
    7,601
    If you get a ticket in the town proper,it goes to the city clerk.If you get a ticket in the county,it goes to the county clerk.
    So the 5 thru Portland,no matter who stops you,would go to the city and have to follow city laws.
     
  20. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,440
    Likes Received:
    491
    Here is the thing. State and municipal agencies have ability to enforce both State and Federal laws. Federal agents can only enforce Federal laws. Now the question is whether State agency can enforce county/city laws, and if county agency (when not specifically contracted to do so) can enforce city laws. And finally it boils down to who can pull me over on I-5, and what laws can they enforce ?