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Transfer Question

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by jac1304, Nov 13, 2015.

  1. jac1304

    jac1304 Snohomish, WA Member

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    Just bought my first gun doing a private transfer at an FFL, no sales tax; just paid the transfer. If I buy a used gun from private party and have it shipped to an FFL is it still no sales tax? The private party is out of wa state. Thanks, Jeff
     
  2. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    In Washington.

    Must a licensed dealer facilitating the transfer of a firearm between unlicensed
    persons collect sales tax or use tax from the transferee?

    No. An in-state firearms dealer is not required to collect sales tax or use tax when a
    firearm is transferred between unlicensed parties.
    Is the interstate transfer of a firearm from a licensed dealer subject to sales tax or
    use tax?
    Yes. An in-state firearms dealer involved in the transfer of a firearm from an out-of-
    state licensed firearms dealer to an unlicensed person in this state (interstate transfers)
    remains responsible for collecting use tax from the transferee.

    The tax due is generally determined by the purchase price paid by the transferee to the
    seller, which includes freight, delivery and insurance charges.
    If this purchase price is not known, or if the transferee acquires the firearm in a manner other than an arms-length sales transaction, the firearms dealer must determine the taxable amount by using
    the current fair market value of the firearm as provided by RCW 82.12.010.
    Current fair market value may be determined by the insured value, a recent appraisal, or a reliable
    resource, such as a respected publisher of gun values. Values are subject to audit
    verification
     
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  3. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Or,

    Yes, your paying the state taxes.
     
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  4. jac1304

    jac1304 Snohomish, WA Member

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    Thanks that's what I thought... I really miss the good old days.
     
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  5. TCOV

    TCOV OLYMPIC PENINSULA Active Member

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    No taxes are required if the out of state purchase is from a private party. The only question would be if they use a ffl to ship. Need to ask your receiving ffl about that. I would think seller would be the one who received the payment.
    Purchasing from an out of state ffl would require collecting the tax.
     
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  6. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    You may be off a little on this as you are supposed to pay 'use' taxes on garage sales,so I would expect that WA wants taxes on ANY sale.Now they don't get them from online sales but I would bet there is a clause in there saying it should be paid
     
  7. TCOV

    TCOV OLYMPIC PENINSULA Active Member

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    Actually the no tax language is written into I 594 for private transfers including out of state. Private party sales are specifically exempt from the sales and use taxes under I 594.
     
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    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    That sounds scary. They were so happy to get a gun law passed,they forgot the taxes?:eek:
     
  9. TCOV

    TCOV OLYMPIC PENINSULA Active Member

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    What discussion I remember seems they wanted to convince more people it was a reasonable law and make it less of a hassle for ffl dealers to encourage more dealers to participate. Of course prior to I 594 taxes were collected on all out of state transfers so there is a tiny consolation. I don't know if the private seller uses a ffl for shipping if that makes a difference as you wouldn't be buying from that dealer, the money would be paid to the private party.