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Thunder Ranch or Holland Shooting school?

Discussion in 'Education & Training' started by remadl76239, Dec 15, 2015.

  1. remadl76239

    remadl76239 New Member

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    I want to attend a long range shooting course this year. I found both of these schools and have heard good things about them. In short, what are your group thoughts about the schools and which one is the best choice for the money?
  2. Pandaz3

    Pandaz3 Cornelius, Oregon NRA Lifetime Member Platinum Supporter Gold Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I was not aware of Holland till your post. I have never been to Powers, Oregon. It is a fur piece out of the way! I looked at a aerial view and did not see a obvious motel and I did not really read deep into the website. It is promising.

    I have been to Lakeview and stayed in at least three different motels there. Hospital with a helipad. Bad city water, safe but bad tasting. Hey Thunder Ranch is the one with the reputation, but probably pricier.

    I have not been to either one. I am not a good enough shooter to attend either one. No matter which one you decide, they will likely help you improve.
  3. Johnnny13

    Johnnny13 Bend, Oregon Active Member

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    I would recommend Magpul's Long Range course. Caylen is a excellent instructor.

    OFADAN Brownsville, OR Well-Known Member

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    Train with Clint at Thunder Ranch while you can. He has been teaching since the late 1970's. I don't know how many more years he will be doing this. Clint is a training pioneer (in innovation not age) of which many others copy. Many of today's trainers are Clint's former students.

    There are other good schools but I'd train with Clint while he is still offering classes.
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  5. Don H

    Don H Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely! I was just there in November for mid-range rifle and defensive handgun and they were awesome!

    I'm a complete newbe at anything over 100 yards but they had me hitting out to 700 yards and ( I didn't know any better before) was shooting cheap AE 55 FMJ in my AR 5.56!

    Great class! You'll leave with dope for your setup and will be good to go as long as you keep practicing.

    Go, you will not regret it!

    Edit: PM if you want to talk about TR.
  6. Deavis

    Deavis Mid Willamette Valley Active Member

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    TR first, then Holland and Magpul and so on.

    I recommend TR without reservation.
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  7. Gun Mechanic

    Gun Mechanic Portland Active Member

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    I highly recommend Mike Herbes @ Oregon Precision Firearms Training


    I have had quite a bit of hand to hand, handgun, shotgun and knife training but this was my first long range rifle class. I took the class with two other friends. I learned how to bang steel from 100 yards out to 1,200 yards by collecting my rifle’s dope, learning to compensate for spin drift, read and adjust for wind based on mirage. We worked in teams. One person spots while the other shoots, trading off frequently, thus learning how to spot in addition to shooting. I’ve heard learning spotting is not always taught at other schools so I feel this is a more versatile class. I also learned how to successfully engage multiple targets at varying distanced. Mike Herbes is a first rate instructor and I would not hesitate to take his class again.
  8. Kimber Custom

    Kimber Custom Vancouver, WA Bronze Vendor Bronze Vendor

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    I'm not suggesting that Appleseed is a replacement for any of those high end courses - however, you will get a lot more value by mastering the fundamentals that we teach first. We cover position, trigger control, breath control, Natural Point Of Aim, zeroing your rifle, setting up Battle Sight Zero, compensating for wind and gravity and more.

    $60 spent with us first or $90 on our KD weekend will make your $900 course that much more productive.

    Please don't confuse fundamental with basic. Appleseed is not a basics course.
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  9. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    I didn't do rifle with Clint at TR, but I have been there for other classes. I cannot recommend it high enough. The facilities are fantastic, Clint and Heidi treat students like family. And like people have said, train with Clint before he retires...
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  10. Deavis

    Deavis Mid Willamette Valley Active Member

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    Appleseed and Herbes!!!! Do them all!