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A few thoughts...

Some folks love to "What if...."
There is money to be made in the zombie craze / TEOTWAWKI items , preps , books / movies etc...

As for looking forward to TEOTWAWKI....Nope....Been in some situations there were mighty close to that ...No wish to go back there.
That said...the lessons learned and experiences had...are not forgotten.

I think that some who look forward to TEOTWAWKI have no real idea of what life would be like in any sort of break down.
I can't say or understand why someone would look forward to it , in any case.

What does this say about our culture....Hmmm...Yogurt may have a better culture than we do....? :D
Andy
Amen!

Cate
 
Yes, even gun-porn/tactical-porn/prepper-porn. Let's be honest, how many of us buy more guns and ammo as soon as there is talk about bans?
I am one of those folks but I will use any excuse I can find to add to my collection.

The excuse that its the end of the world is much better than saying its "Thursday I need to buy a gun" at least as far as the wife is concerned.

I have a collection of Hornady Zombie ammo just incase some do show up. It was a good sale pitch with the brightly colored Zombie boxes and green tipped ammo.

Always be prepared is my moto! lol

"It's the end of world as we know it, and I feel fine...."
Back 15 years ago or so when the Zombie craze was strong my son made that as my ring tone on my phone, It still is and is worth the looks you get when it rings.
 
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People have been getting ready for the apocalypse for at least a few thousand years.

Its not coming.
Well… during certain conflicts in history for certain civilizations or countries it basically was because their entire world got flipped upside down and collapsed due to war/strife.
 
There is a big difference between war as war and bizarro chiliastic movements and/or conspiracy theories around them which are a big part of our culture industry.
 
Yes, that $9 mil compound could deflate seriously in a Depression scenario, no doubt. I never think much about whatever paper value my home and property may have. Because whatever that number is, I still need a place to live. That is the value of it to me, it's utility as housing. Whatever I paid for it initially 34 years ago was fair value at the time; whatever it would sell for now would be fair value of the moment, considering the significant shrinkage of buying power of today's dollar. But that can all change. We saw a taste of it in 2008.

The financial history of the United States has been typified by booms and busts. Only in recent times have the powers that be found ways to stymy these trends with unorthidox financial manipulation. Finance and government are both deep in uncharted waters; the consequences are unknowable. One thing I've noticed, the average people I know and talk to don't seem bothered by any of it. An imminent crash has been predicted for years now and it hasn't materialized, which in my view has contributed to most people's lack of concern. I'm not so confident.
My FIL was the first to introduce me to doom and gloom predictions back in the 1970s. He was big on coin collecting and when the government got rid of silver it started the crash theory. He gave me a book to read that was printed in the 1970s that predicted the doom of our financial system.

My house was built in the 1970s for 28k. The value today is 365k its to the point an average family can't buy it but the government loves to raise the property taxes until you can't pay them. That's inflation.

I guess what I am trying to say is the crash has hit.
 
Bada bing - bada boom!

Thank you.

Cate
:DI suspect I fit into a lot of your very long profile of what you think of some people that prepare. At 68 years old it's the life I prefer but certainly not the life you profile.

I enjoy life a great deal because I can, I prepared for these times so I have few worries. Mentally, physically, financially and the most important spiritually.

Have a great day.
 
My house was built in the 1970s for 28k. The value today is 365k its to the point an average family can't buy it but the government loves to raise the property taxes until you can't pay them. That's inflation.
My dad and a managing engineer doing the same thing I do basically made 1/5th what I do now in the early 70's. My standard of living is higher by far than his was. Bigger, better house, better everything etc. Inflation happens but so does wage inflation.
 
My dad and a managing engineer doing the same thing I do basically made 1/5th what I do now in the early 70's. My standard of living is higher by far than his was. Bigger, better house, better everything etc. Inflation happens but so does wage inflation.
Minimum wage in the early 70s was $1.25 an hour. Oregon minimum wage is now $12 compared to $7.50 federal
 
Minimum wage in the early 70s was $1.25 an hour. Oregon minimum wage is now $12 compared to $7.50 federal
Federal is a joke. No one does that. Even states with much lower minimum wages can't get anyone to work for their official minimum wages. I'm in South Carolina. 7.50 official minimum wage. Defacto more like 12 bucks an hour and 15 to 17 in industrial.
 
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when the government got rid of silver it started the crash theory.

My house was built in the 1970s for 28k. The value today is 365k its to the point an average family can't buy it ...That's inflation.
There is a difference between currency debasement (which you are describing) and inflation. They appear the same to the consumer, but the causes are fundamentally different.
 
Minimum wage in the early 70s was $1.25 an hour. Oregon minimum wage is now $12 compared to $7.50 federal
An ounce of silver was also around a $1. Now it's over $20. The minimum wage is no longer aligned with it. That is a sign that our money is broken.

I believe people who are hoping for TEOTWAWKI are sickos who are hoping for movies like "The Purge" to become an everyday reality. They want the chaos and ability to do what they want with no government intervention, mistakenly believing that they will reign superior with all of their immense firepower and camo gear. The reality is that most of these people (men, actually) that I have come across are between 40-70 years old, almost all are over 250 pounds and couldn't run half a mile, much less 5 miles. They are in terrible physical shape, maybe on HBP, cholesterol, or diabetes meds that they are dependant on. Their knees and/or back are in terrible shape. Yeah, you're going to do great during the zombie apocalypse, LOL.

Not all, of course. I'm sure some are truly ready for it, at least what their perception of what it will be like. No one really knows for sure what that will be. We can only prep for our best guess scenario. I think rational people hope they can get fuel at the gas station tomorrow, take a warm 10 minutes shower in the morning, and that the power never goes off permanently. We prepare in case those things don't happen, but we hope they do.
 
Federal is a joke. No one does that. Even states with much lower minimum beaches can't get anyone to work for their offices minimum wages. I'm in South Carolina. 7.50 official minimum wage. Defacto more like 12 bucks an hour and 15 to 17 in industrial.
That's how it should be. The market should control wages, not the government.
 
An ounce of silver was also around a $1. Now it's over $20. The minimum wage is no longer aligned with it. That is a sign that our money is broken.

I believe people who are hoping for TEOTWAWKI are sickos who are hoping for movies like "The Purge" to become an everyday reality. They want the chaos and ability to do what they want with no government intervention, mistakenly believing that they will reign superior with all of their immense firepower and camo gear. The reality is that most of these people (men, actually) that I have come across are between 40-70 years old, almost all are over 250 pounds and couldn't run half a mile, much less 5 miles. They are in terrible physical shape, maybe on HBP, cholesterol, or diabetes meds that they are dependant on. Their knees and/or back are in terrible shape. Yeah, you're going to do great during the zombie apocalypse, LOL.

Not all, of course. I'm sure some are truly ready for it, at least what their perception of what it will be like. No one really knows for sure what that will be. We can only prep for our best guess scenario. I think rational people hope they can get fuel at the gas station tomorrow, take a warm 10 minutes shower in the morning, and that the power never goes off permanently. We prepare in case those things don't happen, but we hope they do.
I am not a hard core prepper hopping for the end of civilization, I just lived through some hard times and knew hard times would come again. It's happening all around us in my opinion but then I have seen it before so it's not a surprise.

It may sound all doom and gloom to say these things but it isn't really because it's the cycles in life. You can't stop them because we haven't got the power but we can live through them if we just understand what has happened, what is going to happen and who is doing it to us.
 
An ounce of silver was also around a $1. Now it's over $20. The minimum wage is no longer aligned with it. That is a sign that our money is broken.

I believe people who are hoping for TEOTWAWKI are sickos who are hoping for movies like "The Purge" to become an everyday reality. They want the chaos and ability to do what they want with no government intervention, mistakenly believing that they will reign superior with all of their immense firepower and camo gear. The reality is that most of these people (men, actually) that I have come across are between 40-70 years old, almost all are over 250 pounds and couldn't run half a mile, much less 5 miles. They are in terrible physical shape, maybe on HBP, cholesterol, or diabetes meds that they are dependant on. Their knees and/or back are in terrible shape. Yeah, you're going to do great during the zombie apocalypse, LOL.

Not all, of course. I'm sure some are truly ready for it, at least what their perception of what it will be like. No one really knows for sure what that will be. We can only prep for our best guess scenario. I think rational people hope they can get fuel at the gas station tomorrow, take a warm 10 minutes shower in the morning, and that the power never goes off permanently. We prepare in case those things don't happen, but we hope they do.
Monetary policy wasnt much better when we were tied to supplies of metals like metals are a good indicator of the strength of an economy. Gold and silver have been decoupled and while theres a 20 to 1 increase in silver theres more like a 60 to 1 increase in gold. Now we have a little inflation most of the time and wages increase in kind. More inflation in unstable times like now and wages still increase. No big deal. And spare me the complaints about people on fixed incomes. Theyre never fixed. Thats all tied into the CPI.
 
Fear of the unknown has been a part of man as long a man has existed as history has shown. I like to watch the science channel and all through time there was some sort of monster, werewolf, god or bogyman lurking in the night to take small children and unsuspecting folks wandering alone.

Almost everybody I know has a fear of some kind and I think that can manifest into something larger if society promotes it.

Today we look at defund the police, riots in Portland, Seattle, Chicago and many other cities. We have inflation going up, a Pandemic, shot mandates, masks to be worn in your own home and vaccination cards. Show me your papers please!

In some countries you have to show your Vaccination card to leave your home for the most part and internment camps if you do not comply and test positive.

Our country is divided to a point of hatred and I mean utter hatred for the other point of view and their minds will not be changed.

Government is not working for us but they are demanding we comply to their whims and the courts seem to be allowing it to happen.

If you say any thing against the norm on social media your speech is banned and you are chastised.

The states ignore Federal law and the feds ignore states rights and they both ignore the constitution leaving us to fend for ourselves.

We are in a cold civil war and now have the so called mainstream media outlets saying it could go hot and not to far in the future.

So now what where we talking about, O Ya, the zombie apocalypse and the end of the world. I do not know why any body would ever feel that could happen.

I feel some want it to happen just so all this BS will be over and normal life can just go on.

But then again what do I know I am just a guy with "It's the end of world as we know it, and I feel fine...." as a ring tone so I am just one of the loons.
 
We have two groups in this, though... Group One, the Masturbatory Fantasists aka Wannabe Purgers. These people are borderline psychopaths.

Group Two is more what I'd call Resigned Acceptance. They don't WANT this, but believe it's inevitable and would rather have it happen while stronger generations are still around to power through it and start the rebuilding in the hope that their children and grandchildren will be spared the worst of the suffering to come.
 

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