This is what happens when liberal justices get confirmed to the Supreme Court

[Trlsmn]

A few months back I was bounced from this site because Of my views on Sotomayer.

I don't really follow your statement. I can find no record of any action taken against you in regards to any political posts or anything else. :huh:

To the best of my memory there has only been one person banned for politics and that person had neo-Nazi tendencies.

 

[wheretheheckami]

"You are right in that it probably won't affect the overall balance of the court."

Except she'll be there for another 30-40 years! If something happens to one of the sane judges, during chairman O's reign...we are in for massive loss of freedoms.

The unions no longer represent workers. They are merely money collectors for the democrat party. (I'm a member of the teamsters, I know).
As long as unions can participate, corporations should as well.

 

[Bruce]

Term limits people, term limits. With three hundred million people in our country there is no reason why one person needs to serve more than one or two terms. If you could not run again there would be no reason to sell out your district, country, or soul for political gain. The names McCain, Schumer, Specter, and Wrangle come to mind just to name a few.

 

[chris61182]

Term limits people, term limits. With three hundred million people in our country there is no reason why one person needs to serve more than one or two terms. If you could not run again there would be no reason to sell out your district, country, or soul for political gain. The names McCain, Schumer, Specter, and Wrangle come to mind just to name a few.

You probably wouldn't, I probably wouldn't, most here probably wouldn't, but many people would very happily sell out to the highest bidder (or their own self interest) when they have no prospect for re-election.

 

[Bruce]

Good point chris61182, but there are still laws governing code of conduct while serving. Cold cash Jefferson, Tropicant (spelling?), and that ex-fighter pilot republican who's name I cant remember from California got busted. I think more elected officials would get busted with short term members on ethics committees instead of long time members (both parties) that have questionable behavior more likely then not tied to efforts to get reelected.

 

[elsullo]

Term limits people, term limits. With three hundred million people in our country there is no reason why one person needs to serve more than one or two terms. If you could not run again there would be no reason to sell out your district, country, or soul for political gain. The names McCain, Schumer, Specter, and Wrangle come to mind just to name a few.

This thread is about the Supreme Court. Supreme Court justices are appointed FOR LIFE. The Nation is stuck with them till they retire or die.

As for term limits, these will not come from Congress! They will never vote to limit their own futures! And they will never vote to allow a Constitutional Convention to be held to alter the US Constitution. Maybe that is good---imagine what else they would want to re-write!

VOTERS can create term limits---by voting their politicians OUT...............................elsullo

 

[LibertyorDeath]

And don't forget the recent Supreme Court ruling that corporations can throw as much cash as they want at elected officials and candidates. That's also a major blow to we the people.

Corporations are started by people, they have as much right to freedom of speech as individuals do. Do I like some the crap that these d-bags support, **** no, but we shouldn't block what they say just because they are a corporation. Not to mention that it also protects those corporations that we agree with.

 

[OcelotZ3]

So the people who started the corporations have a say already...

The value of a corporation is the employees of that corporation, which means if the "corporation" is given a voice, it is misrepresenting those employees who don't agree with the "corporate line".

The people who started the corporation can certainly speak for themselves and are already well represented.

If we are to treat corporations as people for free speech rights, I can't wait to see how this will backfire in the future in other rulings. How do you put a "corporation" in prison?

 

[marty8587]

the unions did not bankrupt wall street or fleece billions thru ponzi scams. I will admit they are far more left than they used to be but most corporations are out and out thieves. As far as polititions and judges go it's like my dad said" There are more horses arses than horses".

 

[zeezee]

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

(He died not knowing how truly prophetic his statement was)

 

[ZachS]

I will admit they are far more left than they used to be.

Not even remotely close.

Many large unions used to be run by honest-to-God red-flag-waving Communists.

 

[Stomper]

Now their flags are "green"...

 

[Bruce]

Yes elsullo, I realize the supreme court is an appointment for life. I would also point out that the founding fathers would clearly frown upon the power the judicial branch has usurped for themselves.
My point of term limits is still valid as a less corrupt senate might confirm judges that are not Yale or Harvard grad types.

 

[BrentN]

Not even remotely close.

Many large unions used to be run by honest-to-God red-flag-waving Communists.

Maybe remotely close. MY union, AFSCME, seems to slant just a little to the left. Their "suggestions" as to who to vote for in elections, how to vote on measures, and the constant urging to "join in solidarity" at events that could only be classified as liberal, make this very clear. As I understand, 95% of the political portion of my dues goes left, sometimes internationally. Some of those links you gave refer to folks from generations past, seems to me that at least some unions have evolved into money/vote generating machine for the democratic party. I could go into much more detail, I've looked into my union for something redeeming in my conservative eyes, I just can't seem to find it. My 1% retroactive BONUS last year (the only bonus I've ever seen), in liu of a cost of living raise, was taxed at 64%, collectively that must have been a chunk of money for the state of OR. Shouldn't an emloyee union be more interested in putting money in its employees pockets?
Sorry, started on a tangent then got worse. Just had to say...

 

[Riot]

Self defense? Maybe not FOR her, but FROM her.

 

[ZachS]

Maybe remotely close. MY union, AFSCME, seems to slant just a little to the left. Their "suggestions" as to who to vote for in elections, how to vote on measures, and the constant urging to "join in solidarity" at events that could only be classified as liberal, make this very clear. As I understand, 95% of the political portion of my dues goes left, sometimes internationally. Some of those links you gave refer to folks from generations past, seems to me that at least some unions have evolved into money/vote generating machine for the democratic party. I could go into much more detail, I've looked into my union for something redeeming in my conservative eyes, I just can't seem to find it. My 1% retroactive BONUS last year (the only bonus I've ever seen), in liu of a cost of living raise, was taxed at 64%, collectively that must have been a chunk of money for the state of OR. Shouldn't an emloyee union be more interested in putting money in its employees pockets?
Sorry, started on a tangent then got worse. Just had to say...

They support the Democratic party, which by historical and international standards is a center-right party.

They are not Communists, and are not as far-left as unions were in the US before 1940. That's the only argument I'm making.

 

[Jamie6.5]

They support the Democratic party, which by historical and international standards is a center-right party.
They are not Communists, and are not as far-left as unions were in the US before 1940. That's the only argument I'm making.

International standards be damned! If you think the Democrat party is center right these days you are living in a dream world. I know things are pretty liberal in Eugene Zach, so maybe that has colored your opinion,...
But to the rest of the country, current democrat leadership represents a position that is way too left of center.
Obama campaigned as a self proclaimed "center-left" politician. As a result of his actions since taking office, many voters from the "middle" feel they were duped and lied to. Having voted since the early '70s, I can tell you he is as far to the left as any president I have ever seen,
Of course many on the far left feel he has let them down also,...
But that doesn't mean he's a centrist. He's just not a flag waving socialist, like left wing extremists want him to be.
Currently the highest ranking Democrats are very far left. I mentioned them in my post above. If the party and the voters will step up and clean house, getting rid of their crooks like Charley Rangle, and their nuts like Feinstein, Levin, Scumer and Pelosi, centrist voter will have more respect for the party.

 

[ZachS]

International standards be damned! If you think the Democrat party is center right these days you are living in a dream world. I know things are pretty liberal in Eugene Zach, so maybe that has colored your opinion,...
But to the rest of the country, current democrat leadership represents a position that is way too left of center.
Obama campaigned as a self proclaimed "center-left" politician. As a result of his actions since taking office, many voters from the "middle" feel they were duped and lied to. Having voted since the early '70s, I can tell you he is as far to the left as any president I have ever seen,
Of course many on the far left feel he has let them down also,...
But that doesn't mean he's a centrist. He's just not a flag waving socialist, like left wing extremists want him to be.
Currently the highest ranking Democrats are very far left. I mentioned them in my post above. If the party and the voters will step up and clean house, getting rid of their crooks like Charley Rangle, and their nuts like Feinstein, Levin, Scumer and Pelosi, centrist voter will have more respect for the party.

For one example, Feinstein's husband is a billionaire defense contractor. Please tell me how that could possibly be compatible with her being "far left."

 

[Trlsmn]

For one example, Feinstein's husband is a billionaire defense contractor. Please tell me how that could possibly be compatible with her being "far left."

Simple, just because Democrats pander to the left to get in office doesn't necessarily mean they are helping their leftist constituency, in reality they are helping the rich elite just as the Republicans do.

 

[ZachS]

Simple, just because Democrats pander to the left to get in office doesn't necessarily mean they are helping their leftist constituency, in reality they are helping the rich elite just as the Republicans do.

Exactly - and my definition of "leftist" explicitly excludes "pretending to be leftist."

(and my mistake, it's Pelosi who has the billionaire husband.... )